Thin or Thick?

Bill Sullivan

Bill Sullivan

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In the DVX book it states that "...the general advice is to shoot with THIN line detail" and that it "...preserves the most options." It goes on to say THICK can be simulated in post, but if you shoot THICK, you're stuck with it.

So, does anyone have any insight into why the factory setting in Scene file 5 (24P) is THICK?

Thanks,

Bill
 
That scene file is designed for shooting 24p-looking footage for display on an interlaced television. That's why it uses the 24P recording sequence (instead of 24pA) and it uses the cine-like-V gamma and it uses the THICK line detail. All are designed to work best with the interlaced TV and its limitations.
 
I shoot in Thin mode... I feel it gives me the cleanest image. What exactly does that setting do Barry? Honestly, the difference to me is very miniscule...
 
Thanks Barry. I'm thinking of switching it to THIN just to keep my options open. Any potential problems just changing that one setting?

Bill
 
I always shoot thin. The only thing thick does is add a slight blur to keep fine lines from "ringing" when displayed on an interlaced TV. You can always do that yourself, if you need to.
 
Yes

F6 settings give you the best tweakable post production image.

F5 gives you the best filmlooking image in camera for direct to interlace tv viewing.

Of course in the PAL model (non A/B) the only difference between F5 and F6 is thin and thick.

Personally I think if you invest money to buy a advanced cam as DVX100 you should never touch the F5 setting.
 
Brandon Rice said:
I shoot in Thin mode... I feel it gives me the cleanest image. What exactly does that setting do Barry? Honestly, the difference to me is very miniscule...
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Interlaced footage requires a blur filter because it switches between fields. If it doesn't blur the footage a little bit, some horizontal detail may appear on one line in, say, the odd fields, but not in the even fields. That will cause a noitceable and annoying flicker when viewed on an interlaced screen.

Using THICK employs this filter. It's what you want if you intend your footage to be viewed on an interlaced screen (any standard TV).

Also, even if you don't see the flicker, if you use THIN, you may end up seeing stairstep artifacting on diagonal lines, like window blinds or what have you.
 
David Jimerson said:
Also, even if you don't see the flicker, if you use THIN, you may end up seeing stairstep artifacting on diagonal lines, like window blinds or what have you.
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OH... that's what that came from! Ok, so, like Horse said, a blur filter can be done in post... how would I do that?
 
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