Thin,Medium, Thick. Is this backwards??

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Haleyvision

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I'm reading through Barry Green's book and He says thin gives you best resolution. But while experimenting with the menu and switching back and forth, thick seems to look sharper... Help! I have a DVX 100B and I'm trying to make the image as sharp as the camera can do. Barry if your listening, how can you set this camera up to be as crisp as it can possibly be??
 
It "seems to look sharper"?
Where are you looking at the footage? It will depend what you are looking the footage on. The flip-out LCD for instance won't be able to show all the detail, as its resolution isn't high enough.
Thin detail will give you most resolved resolution, no doubt about that.
 
If you're in 60i mode, you can't change between thin & thick.

In progressive mode, thin is way sharper. Interlaced TVs don't deal well with thin footage, but import the footage into your NLE or look at it on a plasma or LCD and you should see a big resolution jump in thin mode.
 
honestly man, thin, medium, or thick, its really how you use it that counts.

;P
 
I'm trying to get the sharpest possible image from the 100b. I judged the thick/thin by zooming in on a newspaper. On thick, letters were crisp. On thin, they got fuzzier... Forgive me guys and gals but i'm anal about sharpness and I can't afford HD yet. I come from a film background and I want to see the sharpest image from my new investment. I run detail at +7. I just bought the anamorphic adapter...(UGG) Not happy with it. Barry, Can I run this camera up in menu to give me the sharpest, high res? Tell me, I'm listening. By the way, I did the thick/thin test at 30p viewing through LCD. Nuther note...Bought camera and applied for rebate...Denied! Invalad serial #. Hum? Sopranos Cam?
 
Never heard of Sopranos Cam, but it sounds like you may have a gray-market unit. Is Sopranos an authorized dealer?

Here's a painfully obvious question, but I do have to ask: How are you changing the vertical detail setting -- are you switching scene files? Are you certain that every setting is exactly the same between both scene files, and the only difference is the vertical line detail setting?

Again, capture the footage and bring it into an NLE and look at it. Thin should be about 30% sharper than thick.

For sharpest image, understand that "sharpness" encompasses two components: resolution, yes, but also contrast. The "detail" function doesn't add any resolution, it only enhances contrast. The only way you can affect the actual resolution of the image is through the thin/thick setting.

To enhance contrast, detail+7 and v-detail +7, and B.Press gamma, and Master Pedestal at -10 (or even -15) will all exaggerate contrast and lead to the perception of a sharper picture. But the amount of resolved detail won't change, it's all the same. The only way to get more detail is through the THIN setting.
 
Barry, Thank you! Just noticed you are a North Carolina boy! I'm from Winston-Salem,NC born and raised! The DVX is different than the Canon Scoopic 16 I'm getting ready to put on Ebay! I love the look of the 100b, just shot a Volvo Trucking corporate video with it but I shot 60i in squeeze. When I saw the final DVD I was somewhat concerned, with sharpness (Maybe I need new glasses) My fiance' just bought a Canon Elura 100 for $350 and sharpness was very similar... I guess I'm OCD for the HVX 200
 
I don't think Barry is a Native to NC. And I think Barry is okay with being called a North Carolina boy as long as it is not in prison...
FD
 
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