The right format for the job

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Kugar13

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Hey guys,

I've developed the bad habbit of filming everything in 24p regardless of the intended target for the project distribution (film, video, net). Dumb hu? Well, it just hit me, after doing a dozen projects, that it may not be in my best interest to film projects in 24p that are intended for TV and net use. Problem is I don't know anything about 60i/30i/interlaced. Can anyone give me a few essental tips, or point me in the right direction.

I'm asking because I've been shooting a few music videos, and plan to do a few more, for friends and it dawned on me it may not make any sense to shoot a music video on 24p if it will only play on tv/net/dvd.

Thanks for your patience and wisdom!
 
Computer monitors are progressive. So if shooting for the web, progressive makes sense. 24 frames also takes less bandwidth so again, if shooting for the web, this is also better.

I'd make the 60i/30p/24p decision based on the material much more so than the intended distribution.
 
thx

thx

I'd make the 60i/30p/24p decision based on the material much more so than the intended distribution.[/QUOTE said:
What do you mean by "based on the material"?

Thanks for the help!
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Narrative work is traditionally 24p (films, dramatic television programming). Documentary can go either way from what I can tell. Reality TV shows, soaps, and news are 60i.

It is "based on the material" because framerate is one of the variables that can affect how something is shot, as well as creating an overall different "feel" for the program.
 
ok

ok

ok, i guess i've been doing the right thing all along. i thought i was doing something wrong b/c the footage looks choppy online. it may have to do with my settings. i'll check.

thx guys!
 
If the web video looks choppy there must be something extremely wrong with your encoder settings. Usually people go through the hassles of de-interlacing 60i material before encoding for the web, because 30p/24p (anything progressive) is much easier to encode, compresses better and shows without nasty interlacing artefacts on computer monitors.
 
TimurCivan said:
music videos should be 24p in my opinion unless you want it to look 80's ish....
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Totally agree. I only shoot 720pn / 24p. I wouldn't think of ever doing 30 frames per second, for anything, I don't care what the application is or any of that crap. 24p looks the best for now.

Interlaced footage is so horrible, though, after the lawmakers are done passing this $700 billion bailout I wish they'd push through a law making it illegal to subject us to interlaced video footage ever again. ;)
 
wow

wow

You guys really know your stuff!

When would you pick 24 over 24p for a project? any circumstances?

Thanks guys! I'm learning a lot!!!
 
holy crap

I didn't know people felt so strong over 24p

I got a canon xh a1, interlace camera which shoots 24f, identical ( no matter what anybody says) to the 200's 24p settings.

I always shoot 30/60i because of 24p's motion problems (or so I hear)
Can somebody show me some A-B comparisson, and I promise to devote myself to 24p?

I do all narrative work meant for DVD or film out transfer
Let me know!!!!
 
trudd said:
Narrative work is traditionally 24p (films, dramatic television programming). Documentary can go either way from what I can tell. Reality TV shows, soaps, and news are 60i.
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Thanks Trudd.

I had no idea that dramatic television programming was shot in 24p. I guess I always just assumed that 24p was the domain of film and DVX/HVX etc. owners.

Once again DVXuser proves to be one of the best ways to learn about the intricacies of filmmaking.
 
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