The raw, ungraded result of a passionate night with Panny...

Wilbur Eddings

Wilbur Eddings

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I swung her around in my arms like a drunken fool intoxicated by her soft lines.

She sang in the vivid light of the ice rink, every angle beautifully lit by the overhead lights bouncing off the ice.
As I gently caressed her 45 mm lens, she responded by giving me a breathtaking view of the band (who happened to be there too).

Without any blonds or redheads to enhance our experience, we forged a union of director and camera to produce this, a child of the night.

PASSWORD: dvxuser1234


This is my second outing as both Director and DP, I am really looking forward to the next music vid with all the cool stuff I have learned (in my near divorce thread).



See... I can't wait to try the focus-in-red thingie and figure out some way to judge the light without depending purely on my eyeballs.

(Panny says she likes my eyeballs on her EVF but it's just not proper to do such things all the time. Some things should be left for special occasions!)

I've been trying to figure out what that strange ghosting thing is when there is camera movement - anybody have a clue?

Footage is standard definition, completely ungraded... I'm about to fiddle with After Effects to give it a bit of an 'MTV' feel for the band.

Any thoughts suggestions?
 
that .... and with a monitor (like the SmallHD DP6) will be a big help to you pulling focus. I can't focus
for doo doo through the EVF of the AF100.

jeff
 
jmarkham said:
that .... and with a monitor (like the SmallHD DP6) will be a big help to you pulling focus. I can't focus
for doo doo through the EVF of the AF100.

jeff
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Yeah, my DP has an F3 with very nice monitoring toys

I'm about to wup his ass with a Ninja and a great monitor!

Only issue is the speed and ease of use that I am about to lose with all these strap on goodies. The thing i love the most about the Panny is that she is so light and small. Now it's gonna be rails and crap.

I guess I have to grow up some time. :(
 
Nice date with Panny, Wilbur, and nice second outing as DP/Director.
The ghosting is strange, I have no idea what it might be, others might.
Do you see it in post, or only after compression? And why SD, and at what stage of the process did it become SD?

Nice movement (on skates?).
The light bouncing off the ice might be too soft for this group- stronger light from the side, creating shadows, might be more interesting visually.
As might smoke in the air to catch light and provide texture. Grading will help, obviously.
More CUs? Fingers on guitars, drummer's hands, etc..
I like the sped up shot of the singer toward the end.

I feel your struggle between light and mobile, and extra tools with less mobility- hope you find a balance.
Cool (ha ha) project, thanks for sharing, and good luck with the ghhossttingg... :shocked:
 
What was your shutter speed, it may be on my end but it looks a little slow like it was shot at 30.

You mentioned a 45mm, which one?
 
Great music and band. Great camera moves, energy and edit (and direction of course.)

Not sure why the image has something weird going on ! ( ghost edges, soft..?)

IMHO: Never post ungraded footage. Only present what is finished as intended.
 
Is the 45 a Lumix lens? Did you have it on a tripod? If so you may also have had the OIS on which would give you the ghosting. Just a thought.

Nice job for second time out.

Best,

Jan
 
groveChuck said:
Nice date with Panny, Wilbur, and nice second outing as DP/Director.
The ghosting is strange, I have no idea what it might be, others might.
Do you see it in post, or only after compression? And why SD, and at what stage of the process did it become SD?

Nice movement (on skates?).
The light bouncing off the ice might be too soft for this group- stronger light from the side, creating shadows, might be more interesting visually.
As might smoke in the air to catch light and provide texture. Grading will help, obviously.
More CUs? Fingers on guitars, drummer's hands, etc..
I like the sped up shot of the singer toward the end.

I feel your struggle between light and mobile, and extra tools with less mobility- hope you find a balance.
Cool (ha ha) project, thanks for sharing, and good luck with the ghhossttingg... :shocked:
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Ghosting I see at source, before I even hit record.
Not always but it appears from time to time almost randomly.

SD was just for this upload so that you could check it out and give comments like the 'close ups' suggestion.

I was afraid that the vid would feel a bit claustrophobic because I already shoot such tight close ups but I shall definitely add some of the extreme CU's and see how it feels!

My tracking was on a 3 m jib, me sitting in an office chair pushed by a guy on skates and the big machine that smooths the ice.

:)

Ed Ng said:
What was your shutter speed, it may be on my end but it looks a little slow like it was shot at 30.

You mentioned a 45mm, which one?
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I think the shutter was at 50, not sure. What would you suggest for next time?
Lens is the m4/3 Lumix, I think it's a 35mm equivalent.

Shooter said:
Great music and band. Great camera moves, energy and edit (and direction of course.)

Not sure why the image has something weird going on ! ( ghost edges, soft..?)

IMHO: Never post ungraded footage. Only present what is finished as intended.
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Thanks :)

I decided to upload it with a password so that I could recruit the very handy input I am receiving in this thread before I start grading.


Jan_Crittenden said:
Is the 45 a Lumix lens? Did you have it on a tripod? If so you may also have had the OIS on which would give you the ghosting. Just a thought.

Nice job for second time out.

Best,

Jan
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Thanks Jan.

Yup, on a tripod, Jib, office chair on ice and the machine that smooths the ice.

I think I may have had the OIS on, will definitely take a closer look next time and test with it on and off.
 
Hey Wilber,

Just know that if you are on a tripod, OIS is definitely off. the camera is trying to compensate for any movement and when you are on a tripod, you moves are planned. So you have the camera working at odds to your desires.

Best,

jan
 
Jan_Crittenden said:
Hey Wilber,

Just know that if you are on a tripod, OIS is definitely off. the camera is trying to compensate for any movement and when you are on a tripod, you moves are planned. So you have the camera working at odds to your desires.

Best,

jan
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Very handy bit of information, thanks Jan!
 
Wilbur Eddings said:
My tracking was on a 3 m jib, me sitting in an office chair pushed by a guy on skates and the big machine that smooths the ice.
:)
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You did tracking shots from a Zamboni??? Forget the wife, I want to see pictures of this!!!
And besides CUs, maybe a WS to clearly establish the ice rink?
Cool stuff, Wilbur, kudos to the band, too!
 
groveChuck said:

You did tracking shots from a Zamboni??? Forget the wife, I want to see pictures of this!!!
And besides CUs, maybe a WS to clearly establish the ice rink?
Cool stuff, Wilbur, kudos to the band, too!
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Alas.

'Twas a totally unplanned shoot. I had a cancelled appointment, my wife (real one) was away and I suddenly had a moment of inspiration to shoot a quick vid. hahaha.
Great band with no budget so i just called em and said "I'll shoot your vid in an hour from now, where do you wanna do it".

Thus my Zamboni tracking shots were very untidy. No place to sit on that thing other than next to those scary gas bottles (normal fuel will freeze).
If I had time to plan this, I would have had foam and smoke and all sorts of cool stuff happening in the background!

The one great wide shot I got, had an ugly misplaced light in it and I couldnt go around again cos the damn thing ran out of gas :( (literally).

A photie would have looked exactly like the pic you posted. Just make the blue green and put a chubby director on that scary box under the driver's ass!
 
Better under the driver's ass than under the Zamboni!!! :shocked:

You deserve a special award for zero to Zamboni music vid in one hour- you move fast!
And obviously you were loving the lean, mean shooting machine Panny is in her, ahh.. stripped down mode :kiss:!

Guerrilla filmmaking- love it man!!! :kali:

Maybe try some OIS on sticks experiments- see if you can replicate the ghosting, then see if it disappears when you turn OIS off?
 
groveChuck said:
Better under the driver's ass than under the Zamboni!!! :shocked:

You deserve a special award for zero to Zamboni music vid in one hour- you move fast!
And obviously you were loving the lean, mean shooting machine Panny is in her, ahh.. stripped down mode :kiss:!

Guerrilla filmmaking- love it man!!! :kali:

Maybe try some OIS on sticks experiments- see if you can replicate the ghosting, then see if it disappears when you turn OIS off?
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Yeah baby, Panny looks sooo chubby with ornaments on her! She's one of those hotties who look best with very little ah... on...
 
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