The Panasonic G1HD | GH-1 Video Mode : A Real Video Mode

Finster said:
I'm still a little confused. I mean, 1280x720 is SMALLER than 1920x1080, so on a HDTV is must not look as good, right???
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Depends on what you define as "good". Some people really like 60fps enough that they'd prefer 720/60p over 1080/24p.

For years, TVs sold as "HDTVs" were actually 720, not 1080 capable. I think its only relatively recently that full 1080 TVs have started to hit the mainstream.

For your video, the best format choice between 720/60p and 1080/24p is going to depend on a number of factors: your final delivery method, the sensitivity to skew inherent in your shots, etc.

All that being said, I expect to be shooting 1080 almost all the time, unless I'm planning for a slow motion effect. (In which case I'd shoot 720/60p and then drop it in a 24p timeline.)


I realize that HDTV resolution is 1080 or 720 lines. What happens, though, when you play 1280x720 on a HDTV with 1080 lines?
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They have up-converters built into them, so they scale it up. Or at least most should.
 
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720/60P Reduces the rolling waves.

You really need more increments in shutter to get rid of it, though.
 
Yeah doesn't look like it eliminates it, only at 720/60 @ 1/30th shutter. 40th and 50th look okay.

Guess it's EX-1 ville!
 
now is this something you see in the lcd or in the footage? the d90 would show scrolling waves on the lcd screen, but in post you'd have to speed it up for it to be visible.
 
LCD and Footage. It's much more prevalent in the 24P footage, the 60P you can barely tell.

But it's in the footage for sure.
 
have you tried a 1/60 shutter?

this is a bit of a drama. I can always get rid of them with the D90. I just look retarded doing it
 
How does the red one handle the scrolling waves?

Would you say the GH1 is one or 2 stops slower than the D90?
 
Mk II was on Iron Man. Count on it. For video not plates. Not saying anymore than that, just count on it.

As far as the ghost whisperer stuff goes. I actually couldn't believe Canon was using that as advertisement at NAB. Most of the stuff I've seen on Vimeo looks better.
 
ryansheffer said:
Mk II was on Iron Man. Count on it. For video not plates. Not saying anymore than that, just count on it.

As far as the ghost whisperer stuff goes. I actually couldn't believe Canon was using that as advertisement at NAB. Most of the stuff I've seen on Vimeo looks better.
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Pretty awesome, man! I wonder what they used it for? Can't wait to check it out for sure.
 
Whats fun is that the Canon NAB booth had two 5D2 complete video rigs. Iron Man II are not the first to use it. It's been used in other theatrical features too, including Fox Searchlight’s Notorious.
 
Never said it wasn't of quality, man. I did say you can use just about any camera.

The point is that it's still lacking in several departments as a full manual tool and regardless of what production it's used on, it doesn't make that any less true.

The DVX, HVX, HV20 and several other cameras have been used on MAJOR motion pictures.

It still does not change the fact that those tools lack the sorts of things we crave.
 
I really feel like the advantages of cheap good glass being able to be bought on Ebay and mounted to this thing can't be stressed enough. Especially with all the crazy looks you can get with old C mount lenses.

Maybe you get some vignetting. But that can be cool.
 
Kholi,

No, you are right, I agree with you that it's "lacking in several departments"... I'm concerned you misunderstood me. I really hope you are not offended by my comments. It's not my place to tell you which camera is better for you. I never meant that.
 
No misunderstanding. It's not about what's for ME because I'll use whatever I'm told too, and if I don't like something then I will ALWAYS turn back to the RED + Nikons.

Just saying that being "picky" about manual controls and 24P is just how it's going to be.

Don't mistake: if Canon dropped 24P and Manual Controls on the Mark II then I'm gonna be shy 2500 ~ 2800 dollars becuse I'm gonna get one.
 
Kholi you don't sound as upset about the scrolling waves as you are about the aliasing but the scrolling waves are far more noticeable and impossible to fix in post. What's with that? The only workaround I can think of is to light a set with LEDs which is expensive. But there's no fix for sodium vapour.
 
ryansheffer said:
Mk II was on Iron Man. Count on it. For video not plates. Not saying anymore than that, just count on it.
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ryansheffer,

I don't suppose you could say if there was anything... oh.. unique? about the 5D Mark II cameras used on set?

Can't blame me for asking :laugh:
 
squig said:
Kholi you don't sound as upset about the scrolling waves as you are about the aliasing but the scrolling waves are far more noticeable and impossible to fix in post. What's with that? The only workaround I can think of is to light a set with LEDs which is expensive. But there's no fix for sodium vapour.
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What? Light a set with LED's?

LoL. What are you talking about?

The issue is only with Sodium Vapor and Certain Fluorescent tubes, and older HMI's with magnetic ballasts. It has nothing to do with using lighting systems that have been employed for decades.

Are you really planning to shoot your feature on your kitchen lights only???

Or under street lamps?

The scrolling lines can be dealt with easily by replacing light sources, etc. Aliasing is a different beast.
 
I know it would take a lot of LEDs but they don't flicker. I'm not talking a soundstage just residential spaces.

kitchen lights all the way. well I'm actually planning on getting a bunch of par38 cans with barn doors and putting 25w CFL spots in them.

quite a few night street scenes....hehe a brick should be effective at replacing those light sources. maybe not that polycarbonate is tough.
 
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