The Panasonic G1HD | GH-1 Video Mode : A Real Video Mode

Kholi,

Did you ever try the live composite trick with an HDMI cable. I'm sure you confirmed it didn't work, I just never saw the post.
 
If panasonic did adhere to all our demands it would take a huge chunk out of their prosumer lineup. just think, this camera alone is almost equivalent, key word almost, to their hpx/hvx series at a fraction of the cost. heck it 2.5x's less than the Letus Ultimate???? sure it may not look "pro" and would never garnish any interest from those types of shooters, but it's up to par with most of the big boy cam's out there. so yeah, you'd see a huge loss from the camera's that make them a lot of money.
 
As long as the footage looks good and workable it is good enough. If some people found the D90 to look excellent, perish the thought, then anything should go. Only one or two pieces I have seen with the D90 looked good enough, including mattias piece. The output from the D90 is atrocious and the workarounds and footage repairing needed is horrendous. The GH1 is looking to beat it by a few miles. And thats a very positive sign.
 
In regards to Panasonic cannibalizing their higher-end product sales...
What's perhaps impressive is that this isn't really a $1,500 camera. While there is no body-only price, its really a camera that is priced near the D90. The 14-140mm lens, which gives a 28-280mm equivalent is the main contributor to price. It's sold for around $800 separately, and is comparable to Nikon 18-200mmVR in terms of focal distance and price.

Thinking about it another way, a D90+18-200mmVR kit also costs ~$1,500. The G-1 body only is a tad over $500 in Japan, the GH-1 can be considered a mid-tier prosumer camera. In reality, this is camera that we will likely see being sold for $700~900 body-only down the road.

My point being, there is a LOT of room above this. Panasonic needs to put little effort in producing a higher-end u4/3rds camera that they can sell for ~$2k+ body-only that has everything. Moreover, Panasonic is a major supplier of to the Olympus system, supplying everything from sensors to DSP, we may see a "Pro" u4/3rds video system such as what Oly does with the "E-x" series.

We should view the GH-1 as a harbinger, a sign of things to come, a step to establish the u43rds system as a home for video. To convince us that the system and lenses are a good investment. Let's also not forget, that Panasonic has been selling the GH1 to vacationers and amateurs in their marketing campaign in Japan- not to professionals. Panasonic and the u43rds system are just getting started.
 
bloody hell

we have to sit here for at least another month talking about this thing while the 3 stooges go out and shoot and post really nice looking stuff.

that sux arse.
 
Car3o said:
If panasonic did adhere to all our demands it would take a huge chunk out of their prosumer lineup. just think, this camera alone is almost equivalent, key word almost, to their hpx/hvx series at a fraction of the cost. heck it 2.5x's less than the Letus Ultimate???? sure it may not look "pro" and would never garnish any interest from those types of shooters, but it's up to par with most of the big boy cam's out there. so yeah, you'd see a huge loss from the camera's that make them a lot of money.
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The form factor of a GH1 is completely different from all existing (shipping) prosumer camcorders. That fact alone is huge.

Marketing departments _love_ products that look & feel different. It allows them to sell different things to different people for different reasons. Everyone benefits! :happy:

Sometimes you need a cam that has built-in XLR connectors. Sometimes you need a cam that has big built-in audio level knobs. Sometimes you need a cam that can sit on your shoulder. We can already buy (or rent) lots of those, and will continue to do so.

But sometimes you'd like a small cam that doesn't have those things, but instead looks and works kinda like a stealthy DSLR with interchangeable lenses, one that's about as good at shooting video as it is at shooting stills, and one which works sensibly with external audio & video gear.

The GH1 doesn't really seem to be able to shoot video as "competently" as it can shoot stills, and it doesn't interface with external audio & video gear in important ways. That's worse than unfortunate: I think it's a huge missed opportunity.

That being said, in the meantime I'm looking forward to discovering if, for example, the appropriate use of a very subtle lens diffusion filter on a GH1 can tame some of the compression artifacts I've seen so far. Likewise, better use of DOF to limit the amount of in-focus motion in a frame, or by using lighting control & so forth to reduce compression artifacts. That's the GH1 video I haven't seen yet. The best is yet to come.

- Peter
www.peterdv.com
 
Hey Kholi,

Show us the Footage man. I have been waiting for such a long(3.5mins) period.

Now how much more do you expect me to wait...:angry: Hmmm?

I know you have shot many good things already.
Just put some on the web man.

And yes, shoot..:kali:...more....
 
Kholi is out shooting the GH1 trilogy.....we won't be seeing anything from him for a while.
this is the most anticipated opening since lord of the rings
 
philip bloom said:
my manual says 60i but camera is def recording 50i...cant find an obvious way of changing it in menus...
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"File size(Pixels)Motion ImageMotion Jpeg [4:3] QVGA : 320 x 240, 30fps / VGA : 640 x 480, 30fps / Motion Jpeg [16:9] WVGA : 848 x 480, 30fps / Motion Jpeg [HD] 1280 x 720, 30fps / AVCHD NTSC [Full HD] 1920 x 1080, 60i (sensor output is 24fps)(FHD: 17Mbps) / AVCHD NTSC [HD] 1280 x 720, 60p (SH: 17Mbps, H: 13Mbps, L: 9Mbps) / AVCHD PAL [Full HD] 1920 x 1080, 50i (sensor output is 25fps)(FHD: 17Mbps) / AVCHD PAL [HD] 1280 x 720, 50p (SH: 17Mbps, H: 13Mbps, L: 9Mbps)"

http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_...ecification/2146697/index.html?trackInfo=true
 
I was actually looking through about 100 casting submissions for our feature.

The process is a headache.

I told ya! I really do NOT want to post random footage of trees and bees, people joggind down the street.

But Peter's request for a talking head or something similar might work in the interim if I can find a subject to shoot before.
 
while we're waiting, anybody got a cross processing technique for color or final cut pro they wanna share?
 
If you can give me/Vahe a lesson in operating the camera, and it's genuinely as good as you say it is, we have a nice little talking head piece coming up on Monday. Maybe see some Humvees explode or something as a bonus feature.
 
If you have an old pinball machine in the basement take the glass off it and put the camera in it and start playing. It's better than trees...

Edit, wrong quote. Deleted it.

Double edit, I'll shoot myself if I see more trees.
 
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Kholi said:
I was actually looking through about 100 casting submissions for our feature.

The process is a headache.

I told ya! I really do NOT want to post random footage of trees and bees, people joggind down the street.

But Peter's request for a talking head or something similar might work in the interim if I can find a subject to shoot before.
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Dude, Kholi come on your in LA the last time I checked. There's an actor at every corner, every Star Bucks and side walk cafe. Then there's Wannabe actors that are even more concentrated, that would love to sit in front of your camera and read lines from popular scripts of films or your own scripts...





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John Caballero said:
In the meantime the stills look fantastic! Wow! Panasonic is really behind the quality of this little monster. Just amazing.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/audioblog/show/with/3326273474/http://www.flickr.com/photos/audioblog/show/with/3326273474/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/audioblog/show/with/3326273474/
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Are those stills pulled from video, or the normal photo mode of the camera? If it's the former, all right. But if it's the latter, I'm not impressed compared to other cameras in its class. I definitely don't see anything amazing or fantastic in these images. Of course I doubt anyone here is buying this camera for the photo mode.
 
Well, if you don't see it is fine. You really have to be at least a good photographer to understand. They are very good indeed. The low light performance is excellent. Common sense alone would say they are not pulled from the video.

Video and stills are looking very promising for such a little camera. I will make my investment back with either one or both. I can't wait.
 
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