Smart move not ordering in Canada. I think I may be waiting for a little while still for mine.
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Smart move not ordering in Canada. I think I may be waiting for a little while still for mine.
d.w.vaughn
Member
I ordered from B&H on 17 October and UPS tracking says "out for deliviery". I have a question. The manual says not to use below freezing. I recall Barry Green mentioning some temperature or humidity issues with a pre-production model. It's below freezing here (the reason for my question). Any comments on what low temperature is "safe" for the camera? I assume it is the LDC screens that are at risk. David.
Alpha Beta Omega
Veteran
I think there's a dual bracket for wireless receivers and it might do the trick.
I ordered mine from B&H on December 7th. They told me that they expect to receive it into their warehouse next week. Nice!
I was pleasantly surprised with how they handled my call and followup. For a new product release, communications between the companies involved seems to be pretty good.
I was pleasantly surprised with how they handled my call and followup. For a new product release, communications between the companies involved seems to be pretty good.
Mikungfu
Active member
Hi, Editman! Two questions:
1: Does the camera come with the adapter to isert the micro? I have a couple of AT875R for both my upcoming cameras but, I'm not sure whether the cameras come with the adapter to hold the micro.
2: Still about the Mattebox... How does it work? All my Lumix lenses are zooms (except the Macro) and they go back and forth as I zoom. It goes forth and pushes the Mattebox, right?.. When it goes back the Mattebox stays where it is and it will show on the shoot, right? or wrong?
Thanks.
Miguel
Mikungfu
Active member
So, I guess you haven't ordered, right? Or are you going to ask a refund? I ordered moine from 3D Broadcast in the UK, under the advice of someone here at the forums... And now I'm not so sure I did the right thing. It seems that UK orders are doomed to be the last ones to be fulfilled.
What's more... I don't even get replies to my emails (and I do not bombard them with emails at all...).
Poor customer service...
Stephen Mick
Totally Usable
My unit seems to be making it's way further and further away from montreal lol
I had your AF-100 re-routed to Austin, Texas. Sorry, PaPa.
I talked to Abel today. I was within the top 80, and they were hoping to have enough to cover that this week, but they didn't get in as many units as they hoped. They said to check in next week and hoped to ship mine in their next batch. Hoping that doesn't mean April... ::shudder::
PaPa
Major Contributor
I had your AF-100 re-routed to Austin, Texas. Sorry, PaPa.
Bastard!
lol, but honestly, i feel like im going to be setup for disapointment tomorrow when i see a rescheduled delivery estimate on the ups tracking site...
keeping my fingers crossed. I'm literally staying home all day until it arrives.
I'd love to know how these cameras are getting to distributors and sellers. I'm guessing they're shipped via ground freight from distributors to sellers. I'm very curious how B&H is getting large numbers of cameras before virtually everyone else in the US, seemingly avoiding the distributors, when supposedly Panasonic mandated use of their distribution system within the last year or so. I'm wondering if the last batch of cameras from this production run is still trickling out of the factory, as B&H is still awaiting new arrivals next week. I wonder if sellers who ordered (and sold to us) units from their distributors will get their full allotment, or if they've been sold units that their distributors and Panasonic knew they could never deliver on the first run, keeping sellers in the dark about whether they would have their orders filled. And thus putting them in a bind with many of us, who've already paid in full for their cameras. The process is mostly a mystery to me.
Andrew J. Allsbury
Well-known member
"Out for Delivery" and my batteries are fully charged...pictures and video coming soon!
henryp
Active member
I am very glad to hear this. Thank you for taking the time to say so.
Stu Siegal
Well-known member
Agreed, some transparency would be appreciated. Still, were this Sony or Canon, we would not even be having this discussion, as there is no Sony or Canon "Jan", and we'd all be living and dying by crappy press releases.
I ordered mine through Silverado Systems. I e-mailed the contact I had through them, and she doesn't know when she will be receiving them. Someone on here stated they had a few available from their pre-order, so I went with them because they had a few open slots left. I hope I don't regret going with them. Time will tell.
Freezing and Condensation
Freezing and Condensation
That is a very good caution. You have to be very knowledgable and cautious to use electronics in below freezing weather. So don't do it if you don't know what you are doing.
General guidlines for any electronic gear; condensation and freezing are bad news.
Below Zero - If electronics are 100% dry, turning them on when the equipment is below zero should be ok. It may not work, but you won't damage it. But you can't be sure of that can you? So don't do it.
If the equipment is warm and dry and operating, and you bring it into a below 32F environment, it will ok and it will operate as long as the electronics stay above their rated temperature. The heat from operation does this. Generally, for commercial equipment such as this, the chips are rated to work 0C. But again, you have no idea what temperature the chips in your camera are operating at.
The real danger is if the equipment is cold and brought into a warm moist environment and turned off, this can be deadly. Moisture will condensate on the equipment and when you turn it back on, it can be destroyed.
The reverse is also true. If there is some moisture on your equipement and you take it outside and it freezes, it can physically destroy the lens or other mechanics from the expansion of the ice.
Batteries lose 1/2 of their power at 32F vs 77F.
And then there are the effects of temperature on the mechanics....the lenses for instance.
So it is a tricky business. I'm sure plenty of people do it all the time with great success, but you need to know what you are doing.
Freezing and Condensation
That is a very good caution. You have to be very knowledgable and cautious to use electronics in below freezing weather. So don't do it if you don't know what you are doing.
General guidlines for any electronic gear; condensation and freezing are bad news.
Below Zero - If electronics are 100% dry, turning them on when the equipment is below zero should be ok. It may not work, but you won't damage it. But you can't be sure of that can you? So don't do it.
If the equipment is warm and dry and operating, and you bring it into a below 32F environment, it will ok and it will operate as long as the electronics stay above their rated temperature. The heat from operation does this. Generally, for commercial equipment such as this, the chips are rated to work 0C. But again, you have no idea what temperature the chips in your camera are operating at.
The real danger is if the equipment is cold and brought into a warm moist environment and turned off, this can be deadly. Moisture will condensate on the equipment and when you turn it back on, it can be destroyed.
The reverse is also true. If there is some moisture on your equipement and you take it outside and it freezes, it can physically destroy the lens or other mechanics from the expansion of the ice.
Batteries lose 1/2 of their power at 32F vs 77F.
And then there are the effects of temperature on the mechanics....the lenses for instance.
So it is a tricky business. I'm sure plenty of people do it all the time with great success, but you need to know what you are doing.
Rick Burnett
Section Moderator
Almost every chip I have ever worked on over the last 15 years is rated from -40C to 125C, with the exception being the chips I designed for satellite usage that went even further into the cold area. Given that almost all of the chips will self-heat due to operation, I'd say the chips themselves are not going to be a problem. And I've designed chips for video cameras, and they were to -40C as well. However, just because they are designed to that level doesn't mean all the board connectivity takes every bit of that range into consideration OR that the chips aren't being used faster than they were designed (which is common by the way) which will shrink that window. But, because of the self heat and the fact many chips are actually now are what are called "System on a Chip" or SoC, they take what used to be many many different chips and build them all on one, which means the heat from faster more demanding circuits will help keep the slower less demanding circuits warm as well.
I'd be REALLY worried about the condensation and freezing of that more than anything else.
Rick Burnett
Section Moderator
Woohoo! I just heard from Full Compass that my AF100 ships out today. I did three day shipping so I should see it probably somewhere in the beginning of the week. I am #2 on their list. Thanks again Zaza for the heads up on them, and Shawn for being a great salesman. As they say on eBay "Great customer service, would do business with again, A+++++++" 
Update: I called and changed my shipping to 2-day so I will have the camera on Monday.
Update: I called and changed my shipping to 2-day so I will have the camera on Monday.
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Zak Forsman
Major Contributor
Ordered mine from Silverado too. they've been awesome in replying promptly to my emails (on a variety of stuff, not just bugging them for updates on this order) and no doubt they are at the mercy of their distributor. I figure if I don't have my camera by... say.... yesterday, I will somehow find a way to go on living.
Anyway, like i said earlier, this gives me more time to flesh out what I'm going to shoot with it first. Here's a hint: it won't be the flowers in my backyard.