The Nikon D600 - The Indie Filmmaker's Saving Grace

In the affordable indie video market it seems to be shaping up as Full Frame or Raw. Once you go Full Frame Raw it's to expensive, so you kind of have to pick one or the other.

I'm leaning towards Raw rather than full frame. You can still get some nice DoF and bokeh with less than full frame, adn the Raw just has so much more latitude in post. Nice to see a more affordable Full Frame option though.
 
GavinAbe said:
Maybe this question is a bit of from the subjetc but ,As a old Nikon user at the time, when useable option of video Canon had more video formats options , I went with the Canon option for video which was Canon 550d and was happy, but 2 main things bugged me, the overheating problem and the time limitation of the Canon which is 12mins. Do Nikons suffer the same over heating problems and time limitations? As it seem Nikon has something I want.
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The Canon T4i will automatically restart a new file with only a small "gap" when teh 4GB size is reached. So essentiall the card size - 32Gb etc. - is teh limit.

It also has a warning when the sensor starts to heat up, as well as an additional warning when it gets close to shutting down because of heat.
 
Simon Shasha said:
According to this, D600 will be using a Sony sensor
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Unfortunately, the video on the D4 is a mess in everything but the crop (APS-C?) mode. The D800 is much, much better.

Do we know what the differeneces are in those 2 sensors (other thnan MP, etc.), and how that compares to the D600 sensor?


I am also hoping, hoping, hoping that the full frame Canon to be announced this fall is a specialized video camera/more video centric! Better codecs, maybe even C Log? 12 bit color, better sensor offloading, etc.

I WANT TRICKLE DOWN FROM THE CINEMA EOS/C300/CAMCORDERS. :zombie_smiley:

And i don't want to have to wait 3 years to get that under $5K. The sensor is certainly there. The Digic 5 is up to parts of the task, especially with 2x Digic 5 like the 7D.

I just received my Canon 5D3 yesterday, but I will keep it unopened just in case either the Nikon or Canon full frame prove to be more video-centric cameras!

I could go for either one. I bought the 5D3 because it seemed teh best all-around video camera out of the new crop (had both that and the D800 on pre-order.)
 
unadog, to be honest, I gave up on Canon the day the C300's price was revealed, and then with the introduction of the Blackmagic Cinema Camera (which I pre-ordered the second I saw the specs), and pathetic softness of the 5DMK3 (and it's price-tag), my relationship with Canon was truly over.

As for your unopened 5DMK3, I suggest you do either one of two things; one, open it and start shooting, two, return it and order a Blackmagic Cam - however, the Blackmagic cam might be back-ordered for a while.

If you're looking for a more "video-centric" SLR, I suggest you return your 5DMK3 and wait/purchase the GH3 or Sony A99 when they land in September/October - given what I've heard about these cameras, they will demolish anything Nikon, and especially Canon, have coming in the sub $2500 market. Also, you can grab a GH2 for about $700 or so now - I'd pick that over anything Canon and Nikon have on the market at the moment.
 
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If things go for the good, I will make a choice between the Panasonic GH3 or the Nikon D600.
I have a feeling it will not be an easy decision. I am sure both will have some great options.
 
http://nikonrumors.com/2012/09/11/more-nikon-d600-leaks-full-specs-and-new-images.aspx/
Sensor: 24,3MP CMOS Total: 24.7 million
Image size
FX 36mm x 24mm :
6,016 x 4,016 (L) 4,512 x 3,008 (M) 3,008 x 2,008 (S)
DX 24mm x 16mm
3,936 x 2,624 (L) 2,944 x 1,968 (M) 1,968 x 1,312 (S)
FX-format photographs taken in movie live view :
6,016 x 3,376 (L) 4,512 x 2,528 (M) 3,008 x 1,688 (S)
DX-format photographs in movie live view :
3,936 x 2,224 (L) 2,944 x 1,664 (M) 1,968 x 1,112 (S)
ISO 100 ~ 6,400. ( 50 - 25600)
Finder: 100% coverage.
AF: 39 points.
Shutter: 1/4,000 ~ 30 sec, bulb. Carbon fiber and Kevlar, tested to 150,000 cycles.
2,016-Segment RGB Meter
Flash Sync: 1/200. Built-in Flash
Frame Rate: 5,5 FPS.
Rear LCD: Exquisite 3.2," 921,000 pixels.
Video
The Nikon D600 can capture Full HD (1080p; 1,920 x 1,080 pixel) video at either 24, 25 or 30 frames per. For 720p (1,280 x 720 pixel) video, a rate of 60 frames per second is possible. Video can either be shot using data from pixels across the entire width of the image sensor in FX mode, or with a 1.5x (DX-format) focal length crop, taking data from the center of the imager, without affecting the video resolution.
Videos are recorded using H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC format compression, maximum clip length is 29 minutes, 59. Even more unusually, it's possible to have the live feed piped to the D600's HDMI port as an uncompressed full HD signal, allowing it to be recorded using an external device and/or routed to an external monitor. If desired, this signal can be mirrored on the camera's own LCD display at the same time; the off-camera feed doesn't have any overlays added, so as not to impact external recording devices.
And the time-lapse photography function can be used to automatically photograph relatively slow moving action
HDMI HD output
White Balance
"The D600's intelligent auto white balance algorithm renders white as truly white even when shot under a wide range of light sources, including mercury vapor light. The D600 analyzes color and brightness information of the scene before shooting utilizing Scene Recognition System, and detects the light source highly accurately by referencing its massive collection of in-camera shooting data. The D600 also carries another auto white balance mode that maintains warm lighting ambience when you shoot under incandescent light"
Auto (2 types), 2500 K-10000 K
Power
EN-EL15, standard; same as D7000 and D800.
Connect with smart devices through the Wireless Mobile Adapter (Android and iOS devices )
Nikon announced an optional Wi-Fi transmitter for the camera. The WU-XX clips into the USB socket of the D600 and allows you to broadcast its images to smartphones and tablets running a Nikon app. The unit allows the camera's live view output to be streamed to the smart device and allows images to be shot remotely. The WU-XX immediately transfers photos and also allows you to upload them to social networks to share with friends and family
Android smartphones and iOS devices (iPhone, iPad, iPod)


Read more on NikonRumors.com: http://nikonrumors.com/2012/09/11/m...full-specs-and-new-images.aspx/#ixzz26BxvwHpU
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Clean HDMI out, a DX crop mode, ability to keep on screen and HDMI both running, and a (fingers crossed) low price tag...
Throw this together with an HDMI recorder and I'd be a happy camper. Nikkor has some UNREAL glass.
 
Bassman2003 said:
Pretty cool. I just wish Nikon's lenses did not spin in the opposite direction for focus.
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Why do people keep saying this? It strikes me as such a trivial issue - there are tons of FF where you can reverse the gears if you need that. Muscle memory? Gee, that's like #11,000 on my list of problems to worry about. Which leads me to believe I must be missing what the fuss is about. So what is so dire about the direction the lens turns?
 
I can only speak for myself but yes, it is muscle memory. And not just learning the Nikon direction but the possibility of messing with the inherent learned reaction of the other way. I film a lot of live events with a 2/3" broadcast camera and yes, my muscle memory reaction time is very important. Not everything people shoot is prepared and rehearsed. Might sound petty to you but it is not to me. :)
 
This sensor can do 1080p60 (as seen on the A99 and VG900), so, if that list is correct, either Nikon's processor can't cope with that, or they decided to dumb it down to avoid competing with the D800, which would be a troubling sign. Luckily, Sony doesn't seem to worry about that too much.
 
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