The Foundry Rolling shutter Plug-in (removing micro jitters)

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I was playing with rolling shutter plug-in to see can I remove Micro-jitters from handheld footage.
At first I was trying with deshaker and because of GH1's rolling shutter I didn't have nice results
( the picture was wobbling all around) than I tried The foundry's Rolling shutter plug-in to remove
distortion and after AE stabilization tool to stabilized the footage. At last I applied handheld look to footage...



 
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Nice job. It's an improvement but it's actually scaling so you are losing some resolution in the process. However it might be worth it for extra shaky shots.

I'd like to see how the Rolling Shutter plug-in works on flashing lights, strobes, etc.
 
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I have used deshaker a ton on my footage. I apply it to most of my shots since I shoot handheld quite a bit. I have found that deshaker is by far the best stabilization software out there at the moment. What I have learned over time with it is that you have to play around with the settings to get good results. You shouldn't get too wobbly of a picture unless you are shooting a low shutter speed with really shaky footage. It should be able to deal with micro jitters on almost any shot (from what I have seen).

Not sure if this inspires you to check it out again, but let me know if you need any help with it!
 
Oh and I almost forgot to mention that another benefit to using deshaker (using the free pulldown method with virtualdub) I can deshake the original mts file and remove pulldown all at the same time. This means that I don't have to render once for pullldown removal and then once deshaker.
 
mojo43 said:
I have used deshaker a ton on my footage. I apply it to most of my shots since I shoot handheld quite a bit. I have found that deshaker is by far the best stabilization software out there at the moment. What I have learned over time with it is that you have to play around with the settings to get good results. You shouldn't get too wobbly of a picture unless you are shooting a low shutter speed with really shaky footage. It should be able to deal with micro jitters on almost any shot (from what I have seen).

Not sure if this inspires you to check it out again, but let me know if you need any help with it!
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I know how good deshaker is... I use it a lot.
But for this particular shot I got strange results with deshaker. However, Rolling Shutter plug-in has some excellent algorithm , and I suppose that deshaker would be right tool after removing rolling shutter effect with The fondry's plug in ( I didn't try that combination yet)
I shoot native... Thanks to V. :O
 
mojo43 said:
Oh and I almost forgot to mention that another benefit to using deshaker (using the free pulldown method with virtualdub) I can deshake the original mts file and remove pulldown all at the same time. This means that I don't have to render once for pullldown removal and then once deshaker.
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I've never been able to get deshaker to work on an MTS file on a 64bit system. I've loaded the Dshowinputdriver, tried avisynth with a text file, etc.. I always get a load error, so I resorted to using after effects to stabilize some of my clips. If your able to deshake an MTS file on a 64 bit system, I'd be curious how you do it.
 
jobless said:
I know how good deshaker is... I use it a lot.
But for this particular shot I got strange results with deshaker. However, Rolling Shutter plug-in has some excellent algorithm , and I suppose that deshaker would be right tool after removing rolling shutter effect with The fondry's plug in ( I didn't try that combination yet)
I shoot native... Thanks to V. :O
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You probably all ready tried this, but did you try the rolling shutter correction with deshaker?
 
Bobomatic said:
I've never been able to get deshaker to work on an MTS file on a 64bit system. I've loaded the Dshowinputdriver, tried avisynth with a text file, etc.. I always get a load error, so I resorted to using after effects to stabilize some of my clips. If your able to deshake an MTS file on a 64 bit system, I'd be curious how you do it.
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I am on a 32 bit system. I installed AviSynth 2.5.8 and ffdshow tryouts and used Virtual Dub to load an avs file with this:

DirectShowSource("FILENAME AND FULL PATH").AssumeTFF().SeparateFields()
x0 = selectevery(10, 0,1).Weave()
x1 = selectevery(10, 2,3).Weave()
x2 = selectevery(10, 5,6).Weave()
x3 = selectevery(10, 8,9).Weave()
Interleave(x0,x1,x2,x3)

Once in virtual dub, pulldown is removed and I can apply the deshaker plugin and output to any codec I choose. Does this work on your system?
 
mojo43 said:
You probably all ready tried this, but did you try the rolling shutter correction with deshaker?
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What values do you use for the rolling shutter correction?
Presumably the values are different for 24p / 25p / 50p / 60p ?
 
mojo43 said:
I am on a 32 bit system. I installed AviSynth 2.5.8 and ffdshow tryouts and used Virtual Dub to load an avs file with this:

DirectShowSource("FILENAME AND FULL PATH").AssumeTFF().SeparateFields()
x0 = selectevery(10, 0,1).Weave()
x1 = selectevery(10, 2,3).Weave()
x2 = selectevery(10, 5,6).Weave()
x3 = selectevery(10, 8,9).Weave()
Interleave(x0,x1,x2,x3)

Once in virtual dub, pulldown is removed and I can apply the deshaker plugin and output to any codec I choose. Does this work on your system?
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Yeah, it works on my 32 bit system.. maybe one day they'll get it fixed for 64 bit.
 
nathankw said:
What values do you use for the rolling shutter correction?
Presumably the values are different for 24p / 25p / 50p / 60p ?
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I am not sure... I always deshake in 1080 24p with good results. In general, I use between 50% and 66% depending on the scenario.
 
Hey Mojo43, thanks much for the VirtualDub/Deshake tip! I hadn't touched VirtualDub since the very old days of DV... it is still such a wonderful tool as you have shown.

And.. regarding nathankw's query: the suggested rolling-shutter settings for the GH1 according to the Deshake-Website is 66%.
 
ninetto said:
Hey Mojo43, thanks much for the VirtualDub/Deshake tip! I hadn't touched VirtualDub since the very old days of DV... it is still such a wonderful tool as you have shown.

And.. regarding nathankw's query: the suggested rolling-shutter settings for the GH1 according to the Deshake-Website is 66%.
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No problem... Just to note though, even though they say it is 66% it doesn't seem like this is always the case. Sometimes you have play around with the numbers a bit.
 
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