The end of 35mm adapers and hv20s....

My biggest fear is a rolling shutter. Do you know the size of that CMOS sensor that it is sampling down to 720? Huge!

That baby has a long ways to roll, right?

Or is it a global shutter?
 
I saw some skew on the fast biking shots, but it seemed about the same as an hv20, maybe a little better. See here (this is the middle of a fast tracking shot with a high shutter speed, look at the poles in the back) See its not bad at all.

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Oh snap! I forgot that you can download the original files uploaded on vimeo! Scroll down on this link and right-click, download AVI. It looks really good (besides the auto exposure-which can be disabled)

The quality looks great! Color, DR, and resolution!

http://www.vimeo.com/1612204

(go down to the "downloads section")
 
ther's a little bit of skewing if you look at the railing in the back...i played it slow and it's noticeable but only if you look for it.
 
To be honest, these guys did a crappy job of the demo footage. Their photos are impressive, but the video clips suck. They could have thrown a grad filter on the front, or more interior/movie like clips.

Ugly skating/biking footage to me. I do like that kid walking towards the camera though
 
Ryan Patrick O'Hara said:
To be honest, these guys did a crappy job of the demo footage. Their photos are impressive, but the video clips suck. They could have thrown a grad filter on the front, or more interior/movie like clips.

Ugly skating footage to me.
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Word. But what can one expect from a photographer? This is moving images! I wonder how many photographers heads will explode while using the d-movie mode. ("recording moving images? does not compute...... errr..:zombie_smiley:")

Just kidding I love photographers!
 
What bothers me is the constant flickering due to the auto exposure. If that can't be corrected this is not gonna work well.
 
Huy Vu- Its not really about this particular camera, its that this technology is being implemented into dslr's- thats the game changer. The exposure can be locked to manual- so they say.
 
constant flickering is yet to be "proven" to be disabled. from the sound of it, you'll be able to set exposure and stop it.

and i agree, these guys probably didn't even know you could shoot video...they just added "a neat little feature"...so yeah, they probably used it and said "neat" and then went back to shooting pictures. the video, even though compressed, of the women in the park walking was very nice.
 
hunter richards said:
Word. But what can one expect from a photographer? This is moving images! I wonder how many photographers heads will explode while using the d-movie mode. ("recording moving images? does not compute...... errr..:zombie_smiley:")

Just kidding I love photographers!
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He's probably still trying to find a way to get the video into photoshop.:laugh:
 
Woah Slow Down.. I don't think this is a full frame DSLR from what I've read. I don't think the sensor is a true 35mm sensor as is the case with most dslr in this price range. This of course means that while you can still use the same lenses the image is cropped. Your 85 becomes a 50 and so on. And if you actually want the coverage of a 50 you end up using a 35 which does not have the same DOF at all. Someone please shoot me down if I'm wrong. I'm very excited about this camera and the things to come, but it may not be the immediate replacement for the RED.
 
i don't know of anyone claiming it to be an immediate replacement for anything. for me it would and some others replace their hv 20's and maybe some other cam's out there, but this is not competition to the RED at all. the sensor is 24x15mm.
 
waefre said:
Woah Slow Down.. I don't think this is a full frame DSLR from what I've read. I don't think the sensor is a true 35mm sensor as is the case with most dslr in this price range.
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I may be wrong but I thought a 35mm for still and motion picture is different. For still cameras, the film is load in horizontally whereas motion picture is vertically so the motion picture frame size should be similar to the non full frame DSLR. Indeed, using a SLR lens, you're not going to get the same focal length but it should be the same as zooming in to match film frame with any adapter. Even Red One is 24.4x13.7
 
waefre said:
Woah Slow Down.. I don't think this is a full frame DSLR from what I've read. I don't think the sensor is a true 35mm sensor as is the case with most dslr in this price range. This of course means that while you can still use the same lenses the image is cropped. Your 85 becomes a 50 and so on. And if you actually want the coverage of a 50 you end up using a 35 which does not have the same DOF at all. Someone please shoot me down if I'm wrong. I'm very excited about this camera and the things to come, but it may not be the immediate replacement for the RED.
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A 35mm film camera has a smaller film plane than a 35mm still image camera. The d90 has a sensor of similar size to a 35mm film camera film frame (which means it is smaller than the sensor of a full fame slr camera). Therefore a lens with a focal length of 50mm would give you more or less the same FOV on a D90 and on a 35mm film camera. A 85mm lens always stays a 85mm lens no matter on what camera you put it, what changes is the FOV...
 
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Min lee is correct.

The d90 does have a "full-frame" sensor, just not the "full-frame" sensor size still photographers are used to, instead it has a sensor almost exactly the same size as a super 35mm negative (35mm motion picture standard).

SO theoretically- If you wanted to modify the d90, you could have full use of cine lenses as well. (It is physically possible according to flange focal distance to make a PL to nikon mount adapter by the way)
 
hunter richards said:
Word. But what can one expect from a photographer? This is moving images! I wonder how many photographers heads will explode while using the d-movie mode. ("recording moving images? does not compute...... errr..:zombie_smiley:")

Just kidding I love photographers!
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Oh...... My...... OK......OK.......

Us still guys just wish most film makers knew a thing or two about composition and lighting!

I love teasing my movie buddies!

frisco
 
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