The Descent

jkc123 said:
Wow.... I must be slow because I didn't get that at all. I didn't know that Juno was seeing her husband. Was this established in the first act? I admit that I sort of tuned out during the cabin scenes. But, I thought she was pissed because Juno killed her friend and the proof of it was the necklace charm thingy the dying girl had held onto.

Thanks for the insight.

I gotta see this movie again.
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When Sarah was trying to save the girl who Juno accidently stabbed through the neck and left for dead the girl told her that Juno did that to her and she handed Sarah that engraved piece of jewelry that said "Love Each Day" (or something like that) and said it was from Paul (she got it off of Juno).

So, if it weren't for Juno Sarah's husband and daughter would still probably be alive (though she should really be blamed for that), because the whole reason why Paul crashed was because he was distracted because of having an affair with Juno. So, Juno not only was a big reason why her family was dead, but also the reason why they were lost in an unknown cave, the reason why her friend was stabbed through the neck & left for dead & the reason why most of her friends ended up dead in the cave. So, Sarah lost it. Though it's too bad Juno didn't explain that she accidently killed their friend. That might not have been enough though since Sarah held her responsible for her husband and daughter's death.

Then again, maybe hallucination girl (Sarah) flipped out and killed all of her friends in the cave and created the cave creatures in her head to blame for it all. Wait, that sounds like another movie. Nevermind. :)
 
skital said:
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When Sarah was trying to save the girl who Juno accidently stabbed through the neck and left for dead the girl told her that Juno did that to her and she handed Sarah that engraved piece of jewelry that said "Love Each Day" (or something like that) and said it was from Paul (she got it off of Juno).

So, if it weren't for Juno Sarah's husband and daughter would still probably be alive (though she should really be blamed for that), because the whole reason why Paul crashed was because he was distracted because of having an affair with Juno. So, Juno not only was a big reason why her family was dead, but also the reason why they were lost in an unknown cave, the reason why her friend was stabbed through the neck & left for dead & the reason why most of her friends ended up dead in the cave. So, Sarah lost it. Though it's too bad Juno didn't explain that she accidently killed their friend. That might not have been enough though since Sarah held her responsible for her husband and daughter's death.

Then again, maybe hallucination girl (Sarah) flipped out and killed all of her friends in the cave and created the cave creatures in her head to blame for it all. Wait, that sounds like another movie. Nevermind. :)
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Yeah, people have been thinking of that on the IMDB forums, its possible but I don't think the director did intend for it to come out that way. (your way of looking at the cause)
 
FilmMakerr said:
Yeah, people have been thinking of that on the IMDB forums, its possible but I don't think the director did intend for it to come out that way. (your way of looking at the cause)
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You referring to the second paragraph or the joke in the 3rd? The second seems dead on, IMO. Does anyone else has a better explanation?
 
I thought this movie was great. Great acting. Great story. A director who really understood suspense and how to create a tension-filled scene. Something that really stuck out for me was the music! It was relentless and big and I don't know why, but that didn't bother me (I guess that stuff only tends to bother you when the movie's bad). I mean he did not hold back with that soundtrack and I thought it worked perfectly. The only problem *spoilers* is that stupid ending. Why do they have to put a moronic jump-scare with the cliche flash-cut blue-y dead character in the car - the kind of shot that someone uses when they don't know how to end their movie ("Ooh! This way we'll leave it up to INTERPRETATION. And it will get people talking!"). This movie was so much better than that. I mean I know she killed Juno and feels guilty, but wasn't this movie about something different by the end? Like just getting the hell out of there?? It would've been perfect if that truck that came (I thought that thing was going to hit her for sure), is about to hit her, so it's the exact same thing that occurred in the beginning (driver not paying attention). But this time she JUMPS out at the last second and winds up living. Or turns around, sees the truck coming at her, has the CHOICE to jump out. But doesn't. Anything is better than the stupid blue-y dead character flash cut.

Otherwise, very fun movie.
 
This was quite a big deal here in the UK.

I thought it was great up until the last 30 mins or so which became a little too generic. But that's not a criticism, just that the build up before it was so good that it didnt quite live up to it.

I loved the sense of calustrophobia and the way you would see things just out of the corner in the darkness. But once it turned into a matrix/manga 'frig you melonfamrer' piece I wasn't so impressed.

hey but he managed to squeeze a lot of homages in didnt he?
 
"carrie" seemed an obvious one! (jumping from the pool of blood)

There is a conversation at the start in the car which is a direct translation of a scene in "deliverance" almost word for word but with two women (my mate was laughing at it when we were watching it in the cinema). there are more Deliverance homages in there too...

Evil Dead, aliens, the shining, are referenced in it stylistically.

I read elsewhere somewhere that a homage was paid to apocolypse now but I didnt spot that (I saw The Descent when it first came out in the UK, which is a long time ago now).

interview quote "when we were cutting the film we put on a temp score, mostly made of David's earlier work, but also a few John Carpenter scores like “The Thing”. Some of it worked so well we couldn't help but pay a little homage in the final mix. "

read the interview at

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/features.php?id=232

it tells you more about the deliverance references I mentioned but also other influences on the film, which I think you can see.
 
I saw this movie a few months ago and love it, definitely one of my favs to come out this decade. I however do not look forward to seeing the U.S. version of this, especially from what's being said by others on here, sounds lame. The original ending should have stayed. Why does the U.S. always need gayer endings? BLAH!
 
so the UK version is just that she dies in the cave and hallucinates that she got out?

that's not so much of an alternative ending...
 
Its not so much that she dies.

It's the last shot it's almost kind of poetic and ties together the visions she had of the birthday cake.

It was a very cool ending i felt. Much better than the jumpscare.
 
Not really. I felt the main character's huge leap to Amazon Huntress was ridiculous and detracted from the movie for me.

Juno was more plausible a character.
 
i kknow a freespirited bisexual self absorbed and man stealer who is a badass was more appealling than the woman who lost her family now is sick now turns into a badass because she has to for her family... thing is her husband didnt really love her soooo shes doing it for the kid, all i can say is i didnt like the lead i thought se was the weakest character.

what would have been nice, if juno made it out and realized how horrible of a friend she was, instead of the other. i dunno i need to see the other ending i guess.
 
The Descent

I found this movies way more satisfying than Snakes on a Plane. In fact I think Anaconda was better than Snakes on a Plane. The Descent is not perfect, but I found the pace and acting was better than average. I was shocked to find out the North American release had a slightly different ending than the original. If you get a chance to see the movie, do a google search on the alternate ending and you'll find it on YouTube. The original is much more fitting than the lame when we get here.
 
Yep I agree. Personally I was laughing constantly with Snakes on a Plane and had a great time with it, however I'm not sure how many parts were intended to be laughed at...

Yes, the descent is a surprisingly good movie. The alternate ending I did find very interesting.

Also, is it just me or did the lead really start looking like Uma Thurman did in Kill Bill?

Cinematography I thought was some of the most interesting I've seen in a movie recently.
 
I like both endings of the movie, each having their own benefits.

The North American ending while being partly a cheap scare that I knew was coming also has deeper meaning, imo. After seeing both endings it would have probably been better for Sarah to have still been in the cave. We already know she is on meds and is having dreams/delusions of the loss of her daughter and husband. Now she shall have to deal with her experience within the cave, the loss of her friends and how she had transformed into something far worse then what was inside the cave.

I hope The Descent can land Marshall some higher budgets, ever since I bought Dog Soldiers for $5, I have been a fan of his.
 
"It was a very cool ending i felt. Much better than the jumpscare."




Yes I couldn't agree more. For a second I thought they were going to end it with the traditional shot with the creature/whatever in the back seat (jumpscare), but no they didn't!! 5 stars in my book!
 
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