As a long-time Bat-fan, I thought they telegraphed it the moment the two kissed. There was no one else she could be.
The Dark Knight Rises
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As a long-time Bat-fan, I thought they telegraphed it the moment the two kissed. There was no one else she could be.
That was my reaction to the last one.
This one was just relentlessly dark and depressing. Thomas Wayne would have disapproved.
Though I will say Gotham was a distinct improvement over the last one. Felt like its own place rather than just a redress of Chicago. I suppose the inclusion of quite a few real buildings from different cities was meant to give it an "every city" feel.
As soon as I knew Marion Cotillard was in this movie, I knew what the twist was.
Still deciding what I thought of it. Might need a second viewing. With anti-depressants.
Though I am surprised at the mediocre response here, given that to my mind, it was substantially the same as The Dark Knight.
Though I am surprised at the mediocre response here, given that to my mind, it was substantially the same as The Dark Knight.
Ryan Farnes
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I enjoyed The Dark Knight Rises, particularly the ending. It seems like I caught a tweet that mentioned Batman dying, so I was sort of prepared for the rather "fitting" way in which he carries the bomb off. But I couldn't help but feel that I wanted him not to die. I like it when the hero lives...it is sort of what makes them a superhero. They defy evil.
I'm a sucker for the iconic scenes of epic triumph with the music swelling to the moment. When Bruce Wayne climbs out of the prison hole. When Alfred sees Bruce in the cafe. Boom.
Christopher Nolan is probably my favorite director now. Perhaps a close second to Peter Weir.
I'm a sucker for the iconic scenes of epic triumph with the music swelling to the moment. When Bruce Wayne climbs out of the prison hole. When Alfred sees Bruce in the cafe. Boom.
Christopher Nolan is probably my favorite director now. Perhaps a close second to Peter Weir.
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David Parsons
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Agreed. I thought it was the best of the three. The last one had one set-piece too many (the two bomb-ladden ferries). And Ann Hathaway almost stole the film.
I thought the same thing. Then i discarded it saying it was too obvious but then it was true! So i got twisted by the twist. So it was a pleasant surprise
I knew she was going to speak her lines with an accent, making her exotic, and there was only one character in the Bat-verse who is "exotic" like that, and who Bruce Wayne had a thing for (which was further solidified by them kissing in the trailer) that would being the trilogy full circle back to the Begins. I was just hoping we'd have a Liam Neeson cameo, and I was very happy to get it, even though Nolen chickened out of the whole immortality deal and just made him a hallucination.
Barry_Green
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100%. I feel like Mark Harris must have felt after Star Trek. So much could be picked to shreds in this pic. However, I have heard from both my daughters that it gets much better, much more understandable a second time through, so maybe I'll give it another shot.
However, Bane's muppet voice was really, really tough to take -- and understand...
refocusedmedia
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Bane was fantastic, voice and all. His presence was incredible. Bale, Hathaway, and Caine were all excellent in their roles. Zimmer was in top form, as was Pfister. Overall, a fine experience in the theater.
That said, this is probably Nolan's worst film and the only one I've ever been disappointed by. TDK was not perfect, but it was solid. TDKR had the added weight of bringing the saga to a close, and it just didn't measure up. The whole film felt rushed and disjointed. Many of the dialogue scenes were a mess as well. Blake just randomly knowing Wayne was Batman was silly and unconvincing. Bane knowing where Applied Sciences was (among other things) without an ounce of reasoning why or how was one of many glaring plot holes or deus ex machina issues. The "twist" that Tate was actually the heir was so trivial and poorly executed I actually rolled my eyes, and the fact that Wayne lived at the end was laughable (especially considering how they edited the bomb disposal sequence beforehand).
Moments of greatness surrounded by banality. If you turn your brain off and go the whole "just a movie" route, it was certainly a fun ride, but I expected more from Nolan. And the more I paid attention, the more of a disappointment it became. I'll see it again at home to be sure, but I don't expect anything else.
That said, this is probably Nolan's worst film and the only one I've ever been disappointed by. TDK was not perfect, but it was solid. TDKR had the added weight of bringing the saga to a close, and it just didn't measure up. The whole film felt rushed and disjointed. Many of the dialogue scenes were a mess as well. Blake just randomly knowing Wayne was Batman was silly and unconvincing. Bane knowing where Applied Sciences was (among other things) without an ounce of reasoning why or how was one of many glaring plot holes or deus ex machina issues. The "twist" that Tate was actually the heir was so trivial and poorly executed I actually rolled my eyes, and the fact that Wayne lived at the end was laughable (especially considering how they edited the bomb disposal sequence beforehand).
Moments of greatness surrounded by banality. If you turn your brain off and go the whole "just a movie" route, it was certainly a fun ride, but I expected more from Nolan. And the more I paid attention, the more of a disappointment it became. I'll see it again at home to be sure, but I don't expect anything else.
Other than his boss being on the board of Wayne Industries, and having the confidence of Lucius Fox?
refocusedmedia
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They were building down there before Tate came on board. And even so, it was "off the books" and was stated that Fox was the only one who knew where it was.
j1clark@ucsd.edu
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It was much better if you had captioning equipment... so I was cribbing from the Wife's device...
Barry_Green
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Can I borrow that off you, for the next time I try to sit through this thing?
If I can...
... but heck, Anne Hathaway so stole the show (as always), she almost makes it worth sitting through even if the rest of it doesn't improve...
KyleProhaska
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Odd...I loved his voice Barry and found it easy to understand.
Barry_Green
Moderator
Meh. Sounded to me like he wanted to think of himself as Hannibal Lechter, but had the voice of Grover... I found it cheesy, unbelievable, and annoying, as well as unintelligible half the time. Heck, with Bale doing his screaming grumbly-voice and Bane responding like he was the Swedish chef, I couldn't help but think of this:
j1clark@ucsd.edu
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The captioning equipment was from the theater. We try, in so far as possible, to go to presentations that have captions. The Wife's hearing has degraded to the point where watching the film without captions is... impossible to understand, and although we are taking ASL, I'm not proficient enough to do full interpretation (if I ever will be...), and she is not proficient in ASL to understand...
Many theaters (or chains) have installed captioning capability that allows most digitally distributed films to be viewed captioned. There are two 'new' systems, both use some form of RF transmission, but the receiver in one case is a LED device which has to be adjusted to 'reading' and simultaneous viewing, which is sort of a pain. The other new type is a Sony system using a 'heads up' type pair of glasses. But still one has to hold one's head in a certain position to view captions and screen simultaneously...
The West Coast chains that we go to are "Edwards/Regal", and two theaters in our area (that being a driving distance of about 35 miles...) have the Sony system. The other chain is AMC which requires a 60 or so mile drive to the LA area. The local to San Diego theaters converted to Digital about 8 months ago, but have not installed the caption equipment. But that would still be a 35 mile drive.
The other chain is Cinemark and the closest theater to us is again about 60 miles... in fact about 5 miles away from the AMC theater we saw the Batman trilogy in on 'opening midnight'.
I think Anne Hathaway did very well... and the Wife thinks she is one of the more attractive young women stars these days.
I don't think I needed captioning to make that determination...
