The closer we come to NAB...

Chamber005

Chamber005

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...the more I'm thinking of stepping away from all the prosumer camcorders. When you think about all the hassle (and expense) that you're going through with a EX or HVX with 35mm adapter, I mean -- just take a look at Zacuto's front page video and the new rig they've developed for the DSLRs.

http://www.zacuto.com/

Price, functionality, and that OH so important factor of discreetness when shooting in a city...

If I hadn't seen "Model/Photographer" in our very own LossFest I may not have been convinced as to what a DSLR can do. But for anyone who is, for now, doing short films being posted on the web or even some straight to DVD stuff, I'm really starting to think these cameras are the way to go -- depending on the final price point (with all components) of the Scarlet.
 
However for us, like me, that are event videographers and film stuff like sports, DSLR's are not the way to go unfortunately
 
Well just the sheer audacity of showing up with a DSLR when you're supposed to videoTape a wedding or what ever, would be frowned upon to say the least. If people hire you, they expect to see a big ass camera wich looks like pro stuff. And for sports...does jello ring a bell?
In general, if you have to work around so many issues like with the D90, it's a huge risk for event / documentary videographers, because they need to rely on their equipment without having to worry about so many details to get a decent picture...and sound, heh, yeah that's the other thing for continuous shooting: how much fun that'll be trying to get all those hours of footage in synch, when you have to restart the recording every 5 minutes or...with the overheating and all...
I love my D90, but I hate it... Hate is for lovers...
 
Nitemare said:
Well just the sheer audacity of showing up with a DSLR when you're supposed to videoTape a wedding or what ever, would be frowned upon to say the least. If people hire you, they expect to see a big ass camera wich looks like pro stuff. And for sports...does jello ring a bell?
In general, if you have to work around so many issues like with the D90, it's a huge risk for event / documentary videographers, because they need to rely on their equipment without having to worry about so many details to get a decent picture...and sound, heh, yeah that's the other thing for continuous shooting: how much fun that'll be trying to get all those hours of footage in synch, when you have to restart the recording every 5 minutes or...with the overheating and all...
I love my D90, but I hate it... Hate is for lovers...
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Yeah, I can see if you're using it for things other than artistic venues...

Still -- I heard that the new D60X is supposed to have identical video to the D90 (for a cheaper price). Any chance the recording time will have improved? And what about Canon's new one (G1?)? I don't like the picture quite as much (so far), but I wonder what the recording time is on that one.

I still think the Mark 2 has the best picture out of the box, but the 30fps is just crippling if you like to post to places like Vimeo and/or want the cadence of film.
 
They will be good for narrative, news, interviews, documentaries and a few other endeavors when they reach a more sophisticated level in the near future. There are few samples of excellent wedding video with the Mark 2. In the meantime we have the D90 to shoot wonderful video of family and friends, sort of like the Super 8 of today. I guess is good for practice.
 
If you don't have to make money with your gear than a VDSLR setup is going to be awesome.

If you make money with your gear, I wouldn't ever trade my HPX170 (as much as I dislike it) and my Letus Ultimate for a VDSLR. I'd even hesitate to trade it in for a RED. Yeah, I said it. A Letus Ultimate rig will fetch as much or more than a RED ONE kit these days.

I used to think, for like a week, that I had these little VDSLRs just a few years ago. But then I realized had I not scored an HVX200 and jumped into the water to start working I would have NEVER amassed the knowledge and contacts that I have now.

VDSLRs may reach a professional point someday soon, but right now if you really want to earn and work, meet some people on certain levels (at least in the commercial/corporate world) you should rock out with a P2 camera. Just being a Panasonic owner has elevated my knowledge and contact base immensely.

I still will probably pick a pair of GH-1's up for creative jobs that will let me work with them. I just wouldn't ever abandon the real deal. At least not until they're shooting to Standard Formats with proper audio inputs, full manual controls (iso, shutter, iris, audio tuning, image calibration, format variables, everything!), all lens mount options including PL, and a decent array of auto/manual switchable lenses for the work that requires automatic controls.

The GH-1's auto focus working in video mode is pretty sweet, and will be great for event work.

Just my two.
 
I enjoyed shooting a cell phone short last fall. It reminded me of the freedom that comes with small, inobtrusive cameras. For me, the 24p DSLR without skew is the holy grail.
 
...about making cheezy wedding videos?
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Nope. About making money with their new tools. You might not like them but somebody is getting their investment back in a few days work. And nowadays thats a pretty nifty trick.
 
i hate sounding like my ass squirts out gold, but the d90 or the gh1 can hardly be called an "investment" considering it costs no more than $1500.00 or less if you don't factor in the lens.
 
Anything nowadays is considered an investment. There are real people living out in tent cities right here in the USA. To many of them $100.00, even less, is a big deal, let alone $1500.00. We really have to come down to the real world once in a while.
 
Tent cities? Where are those towns?


John Caballero said:
Anything nowadays is considered an investment. There are real people living out in tent cities right here in the USA. To many of them $100.00, even less, is a big deal, let alone $1500.00. We really have to come down to the real world once in a while.
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there's one by the river in sacramento, you can see it from arnie's office. How do you not know about this? I'm on the other side of the world and I know about it
 
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