The Cheapo ($144) Asian Fluid Head report

Disclaimer: we regularly get "what first tripod should I buy" from junior members, and we universally tend to steer them towards $500 and up solutions with the "buy it once" philosophy. But some people getting into this field just don't have the cash to drop on a great tripod while lusting after lenses, lights, and grip. and I get that - if you want to start shooting, sometimes you have to scrounge up what you can. This post is more for that mindset, perhaps consider replies with that in mind? Consider "buy it once" already suggested in this thread.

Anyway - I have a very nice Manfrotto setup, I regularly use a beautiful Miller, and will likely get a Sachtler Ace for a good 2nd. But lately I've had gigs where I've really desired a third camera but there's just no budget for it (things like experimental performances with local rockers and symphony players, etc). I've stuck a DSLR on a stills tripod and found someone involved in the project with at least half a brain to aim, focus and "hit the red button". Overall it's been great, useable footage and it's wonderful having more angles when cutting. But... putting a 200mm 2.8 on a stills tripod for video? Well, as long as you don't touch the damn thing while it's rolling....

So I got myself one of those cheapo asian fluid head setups from Amazon.

Yep, it's cheap... cheap "ish". Fairly lightweight and kind of like your nice tripod was shrunk in the dryer. Tubular legs are sturdy, some of the sliding and locking bits look like they could fail with a good knock. Zipper bag's zipper will surely not last too long. But for $144? It's pretty impressive.

It looks pretty legit as well, as long as it's not standing next to a for-real set of sticks. Yep, another point of contention 'round here, but clients like seeing gear that doesn't look like what they take on vacation - it does make a difference with many paying people, and when a client says "whoa, if I knock that over I'll owe you my house" - referring to a T2i with rails, matte box, loupe and a monitor - I get the sense the client feels his budget's a little more justified.

But on to the star of the show - the head - the head feels really nice on mine. Shockingly nice. Smoooth and the drag is great (and adjustable). I've rented some serious tripods and I know that magic feel of the best - this isn't in that league, but it feels as nice as any $300+ Manfrotto head. Pretty freaking stunning. So much so that I decided it would be my slider head, and save me swapping stuff around on "real" shoots.

Alas, the bolt is 1/4-20. Sadly, none of my 325n fittings are that small. (The bolt is also pretty short, the first couple mm are not threaded, and it's pressed into the head). This also means you'll want to take extra care of the (whatever you call the twist knob that tightens the head to the bowl) as it's non-standard. The head has a nice steel release plate, but you'd want to track a couple spares down.

Yep, it's lightweight and is obviosuly more fragile than the pro stuff. But a kid starting out will generally baby his/her gear, especially if it was his sole bday gift or he mowed lawns all summer to buy it.

So, tripod-virgins... you have my blessing to buy one of these to get you through a year or two while you save up for that killer 2.8 lens or that kino knockoff, or your first Sachtler or Vinten. If you take good care of the thing, I wouldn't be surprised if it's supporting one end of your slider or running b-camera after that.
 
I have two of them. They are sold under different brands (mine are Bilora - 99 Euros).

I thought I just throw away the heads and use the sticks for my slider.
Than I tried the head and was more than surprised and pleased.
I usually use a Vinten 20 that weights 18 lbs and is the buttersmoothest thing
I ever touched besides...

....no I don't go there.

Ayway, for the buck, you get much more than expected.

I even use one of them - including the head - on a regular basis now, when I
go with my totally stripped down FS100 and Kit lens. Ultralight travel, no hassle, no shlepp.

Frank
 
Try looking at the newer version of the 717... Search Fancier 270A Tripod

I have just bought one and i am very impressed for the price.
 
Does anybody know what kind of quick release adapter will work with its sliding plate? If I get this tripod, I'd also like to go use it conjunction with my shoulder rig / steadicam and not have to stick to proprietary adapters.
 
Thanks for this, I might actually pick one up. I need to send out my Vinten Vision 20 for servicing, and don't like the thought of being without a head for two weeks!
 
the only potential limitation of the stand is how high it goes. I seem to remember that it only goes to 5'/60" which is a little on the short side but usable for many situations

Can anyone confirm the maximum height on this stand?
 
Try looking at the newer version of the 717... Search Fancier 270A Tripod

I have just bought one and i am very impressed for the price.

This is confusing. The OP says that the 717 has adjustable drag. The 270A does not have adjustable drag, so I don't view it as a replacement. It may pan/tilt better, but no adjustable drag is a drag.

However, plenty of people have said the 270A is a nice head.

Has anyone used both and can they comment/compare?

 
Hm, not too high is it... at 139cm. There was a question earlier about the head; can you take the bowl mount off it and have a flat base?
 
i also own two of them, became my slider tripods now. i own the 717 and 9901 models. i think that the 9901 tilts more smoothly than the 717. they are fine tripods for the price, but when shooting in cold conditions(-5 to -20°C), the fluid gets to cold and stiff, makes the tripod unusable.

i tried to disassemble one to take the halfball off - all you get is dirty fingers, and no flat base ;)
 
So how does it work in the critical areas then? counterbalance, feel, leg twist, brakes, drag, toughness. It's great recommending them against things like Vintens - but how do they perform? Just basic stuff. Can you zoom in, then start a pan, then stop it and not have the lens crrep back when you let go?
 
I bought the Fanciere FC-270A for mounting the head on a slider and the price was so good I figured I would give it a go. I shot a review yesterday and will finish it up tonight. The article is on my blog and I will also update it with more info and pictures.

Keeping to the OP's goal of this thread I will point out a few things I liked and disliked about the FC-270A. It's a pretty good tripod for only $149 but it has it's limitations as you would expect. I didn't get to the point of taking the half ball head off to see how or if it could mount to a base plate since I'm on the fence about keeping it.
 
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