C500: The C500 Mark II is a better buy than the Burano in 2024. Change my mind.

DustinSchmidt

DustinSchmidt

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Ok, this is mostly for fun since I don't care what camera people use and everything is great nowadays.

But since everything IS mostly great, does the Burano really warrant all of the hype, not to mention the $25k price tag?

Specifically I thought it would be interesting to compare the Burano to the C500 Mark II since the C500 Mark II's have been falling in cost recently and I feel like it honestly stacks up REALLY well. So well that I bought a used C500 II a few weeks ago and I've really been enjoying it.

Burano has 8k...but what else is it doing that a C500 II can't do in 2024?

IBIS? Ok, the C500 II has a digital IS that covers that.

Dynamic Range? I've yet to see a standardized test that gives the Burano an edge there, if any.

Dual Iso? Ok, you've got me there, but the C500 II has great flexibility all the way up to 6400 iso.

Rolling shutter? Apparently the Burano is horrible there. C500 II has pretty good rolling shutter for a full frame sensor.

I/O? You need a chart to figure out what is available and what isn't when it comes to the Burano's SDI and HDMI options.

Menus? People tend to complain more about Sony, but honestly if you spend enough time in anyone's menus then you'll figure it out.

Handgrip? Not so fast! You'd think $25k would get you a grip but you'd be wrong! At least the C500 II ships with the grip.

Audio? You do have to buy the extension back for the C500 II, but then you get four xlr's and independent controls for all of them. Burano has four channels as well, but it's a bit clunkier to get four independent channels in.

Lens Mount? Burano wins there. E mount is a much more adaptable mount and the E mount hiding behind the PL mount is a pretty slick system. But you can buy a separate PL mount for the C500 II and put it on with just 4 screws. It costs about $1300 extra (ouch!) but you're still well below $25k.

Lots more to compare, but I thought this was a fun start.
 
Auto focus. The only thing that matters on camera. The only thing that no one mentions.

Id say the C500 is a bit dated maybe.

If used some sonys that are 'sticky'

Both look to have a decent shape.

The burito is a bit big?

EF lenses, Cheaper than beer bottles.. which is fantastic.
 
If it gains enough traction it's going to have the Sony Burano name behind it (C500 name is not worth much, IMO), which could be worth a lot to someone in terms of being able to find more work, or rent more or charge more for a rental (if that still exists in some parts of the industry).

But for most freelancers it won't matter much.

Other than that, both, per usual, will have their strengths and weaknesses (as listed plus more) - and no one, per usual, will notice the difference in the final product on YouTube.
 
NorBro said:
If it gains enough traction it's going to have the Sony Burano name behind it (C500 name is not worth much, IMO), which could be worth a lot to someone in terms of being able to find more work, or rent more or charge more for a rental (if that still exists in some parts of the industry).

But for most freelancers it won't matter much.

Other than that, both, per usual, will have their strengths and weaknesses (as listed plus more) - and no one, per usual, will notice the difference in the final product on YouTube.
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You're right of course, totally dependent on where you are and your clientele. There's no one clamoring for a C500 II from a producer's prospective probably and right or wrong the Burano will be a hot commodity in the coming months.

But if you have the ability to control your own destiny, i.e., shoot on whatever you want, edit your own footage, etc. then there's some real deals to be had out there in 2024.
 
Why the hell didn't Sony incorporate a rialto extension ability in the Burano? Don't tell me it's small enough - it'd be like the Venice but with an easier to mount body...
 
rob norton said:
Why the hell didn't Sony incorporate a rialto extension ability in the Burano? Don't tell me it's small enough - it'd be like the Venice but with an easier to mount body...
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They won't do anything to put it on par with the Venice. Sony are the masters of the slicing and dicing of features game. I have seen a lot of "why not buy a Venice 1 instead of a Burano" reasoning since it came out. Depending on what features you need the option is there in terms of overall pricing it seems.
 
In the advertising / TVS world where it's positioned price-wise, no. Ease of operation is the name of the game here and the limited output, camera control and codec options coupled with potential RS issues means why bother. They'll just hire a Mini.
 
DustinSchmidt said:
You're right of course, totally dependent on where you are and your clientele. There's no one clamoring for a C500 II from a producer's prospective probably and right or wrong the Burano will be a hot commodity in the coming months.

But if you have the ability to control your own destiny, i.e., shoot on whatever you want, edit your own footage, etc. then there's some real deals to be had out there in 2024.
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Yeah, I think your situation for you couldn't have gone any better...I mean, you got the camera for a little bit more than one of the hot brand new mirrorless' out there and just a little less than a FX6, and you like it and it does what it needs to, thread closed, lol.

Burano is way too much money for most modern one man band folk.

You could have 4-5 powerful cameras for multicam instead or so much other stuff and one or two cameras.
 
I mean, I think the cheapest camera that will suffice is the best one to buy.

Will there be some premium to be had from owning a Burano? I doubt it, although I'm bad at predicting these things. But I like the feature set of the Burano
 
C500 Mark III is where it's at, fingers crossed!

Don't buy a Burano unless Canon's next cinema camera is no good, but I have high hopes.
 
My technical comment above does not touch on 'wowing producers'

Personally I have a c200 so I learn the cannon menu and if a producer wants a c500 they can hire it.. but I know how to use it. that where I sit in the cheap seats

So..

a) dont buy a camera to wow producers - let them rent it.

b) it is very important that your camera wows producers.

I think the Burito will become popular... if my technical assesment agrees with that or not I dont matter as Im not a producer with a fist full of dollars.
 
Eric Coughlin said:
C500 Mark III is where it's at, fingers crossed!

Don't buy a Burano unless Canon's next cinema camera is no good, but I have high hopes.
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I know you made this joke awhile back about what an updated Canon cinema camera should feature, but what would make you decide to pick one up? Increased resolution? Updated lens mount? Just curious.
 
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