the 4:2:2 thing

brianluce

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One thing i'm confused about, myself and lots of others seem to have designs on this camera for broadcast applications. that being the case, isn't the 200's 4:2:2 capability a much more valuable feature at this juncture than its HD capability? No one really broadcasts in HD but 422 sampling seems like it could really be useful yet NO ONE ever talks about the 422 thing. What am I missing? will the HD be superior for green screening? isn't 422 where the action is?
 
I like many others here did in fact spaz out about the DVCPRO50 right away. That's what struck me as the most interesting feature so far.
 
Yes.

I'm really excited about it for 4:2:2. I have a feeling that once people use twice as much color information they won't want to go back to 4:1:1
 
So true,

People keep beating the P2 HD horse to death (that poor SOB died about 2 months ago).

The REAL story is DVCPro50 16:9 native 422 SD w/Leica HD quality lens.

That and that alone is worth the price of the camera. HD is Gravy.
 
So my next question would be aside from future proofing your work and those rare individuals that get some kinda movie deal and want a 35mm blow up, of what value is HD?
 
brianluce said:
So my next question would be aside from future proofing your work and those rare individuals that get some kinda movie deal and want a 35mm blow up, of what value is HD?

For many, HD WILL just be a future proofing bonus. However, I've had several films shown on the big screen without needing a 35 mm blowup. HD will be very useful for the coming wave of digital projection at festivals. I am not sure what format will be acceptable though... hopeful they will take "files" rather than tape!

I will be interested to see how raw DVCPRO50 and DV footage compare, coming straight from the same camera. I would think that the layman would be unable to tell the two apart, but it should be invaluable for broadcast and process shots such as green screen.
 
Also, broadcasters like Discovery already accept HD content. This camera will really be great for the film community. It will be intersting once a DP like Nancy or Phil puts the HVX200 through its paces.
 
brianluce said:
One thing i'm confused about, myself and lots of others seem to have designs on this camera for broadcast applications. that being the case, isn't the 200's 4:2:2 capability a much more valuable feature at this juncture than its HD capability? No one really broadcasts in HD but 422 sampling seems like it could really be useful yet NO ONE ever talks about the 422 thing. What am I missing? will the HD be superior for green screening? isn't 422 where the action is?

Do a search. The 4:2:2 benefits were discussed at length early on.
 
mmm said:
HD will be very useful for the coming wave of digital projection at festivals. I am not sure what format will be acceptable though... hopeful they will take "files" rather than tape!

Let's say Sundance. As far as I know, they accept the format HDCAM for digital projection. How difficult would it be to convert DVCPROHD into HDCAM ? Expensive ?
 
brianluce said:
So my next question would be aside from future proofing your work and those rare individuals that get some kinda movie deal and want a 35mm blow up, of what value is HD?


..well, your more likely to actually be one of those people who get the rare movie deals if your film is in HD than if its in DV. festivals wont snoot you as much (they shouldnt snoot at all , but it happens.. even people like us who shoot mainly DV give more immediate respect when someone says HD than when they say DV..), and its more suitable for distribution and wide acceptance because the format isnt an issue of distraction or questionable quality.

and a transfer to HDCAM can be as cheap as the tape if youve got a pal with ..or you yourself have HDCAM equipment. doing it at a transfer house will likely run you apx 100.00. pending rates at your local transfer house of course
 
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