The 150 and Premiere Pro

I'm a part time wedding videographer and have shot about 8 weddings so far with my HMC150/CS5...never had an issue with sound on long clips. Just make sure when you import use the media browser instead of just copying over the .MTS files.

Some things to consider:

1. Make sure you update to the latest firmware (1.21. Chances are a new 150 will have it already (mine did back in August)).

2. I don't know what people are talking about when they say editing AVCHD natively is effortless. I have a dual quad core Xeon system with a GTX 470 and 24GB RAM and I find it unusable. I mean, it's ok for short clips, but editing 3-4 hours of raw wedding AVCHD footage is a royal pain. I usually just use Media Encoder and transcode my AVCHD footage to P2 AVC-Intra 100 and just edit that -- very smooth.

3. There is a major bug in Premiere Pro CS5 and AVCHD. If you are a wedding videographer and shoot long clips this will affect you.
-place an AVCHD clip on the timeline
-cut out a small section from the middle of the clip
-ripple delete the free space
-apply a cross dissolve between the two new "clips".

The footage will stutter badly. As far as I know, this only happens with AVCHD.
 
Hi Jim

I have used both CS4 and now CS5 with my HMC-151E. It is almost fine. There are som issues though.
I don´t know if you run MAC or PC - but if you run PC like me, you might be having issues with transitions between subclips made out of same clip. Take a look: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/623868?start=100&tstart=0
I also have issues with PPro freezing for a minute or five.

It seems if you have a very fast PC it will be no problem - like a i7 980X or something. I have a i7 920 with 12 GB ram and a FX3800 - but still have issues from time to time. Besides from that PPRo CS5 is very nice for editting HMC-151 files IMHO.
BTW I keep wondeing if all these issues is connected with running Windows 7 64 bit? Have not tested it on Win 7 32....

:)
Morten
 
Hi Jim

I have used both CS4 and now CS5 with my HMC-151E. It is almost fine. There are som issues though.
I don´t know if you run MAC or PC - but if you run PC like me, you might be having issues with transitions between subclips made out of same clip. Take a look: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/623868?start=100&tstart=0
I also have issues with PPro freezing for a minute or five.

It seems if you have a very fast PC it will be no problem - like a i7 980X or something. I have a i7 920 with 12 GB ram and a FX3800 - but still have issues from time to time. Besides from that PPRo CS5 is very nice for editting HMC-151 files IMHO.
BTW I keep wondeing if all these issues is connected with running Windows 7 64 bit? Have not tested it on Win 7 32....

:)
Morten

Premiere Pro CS5 is 64-bit only. Doubt your issues are related to the 64-bit OS. However, you may want to check your hard drive. It sounds like your stalling out issues COULD be a dying hard drive. If you're running a RAID system, it could be a degraded RAID array. Sometimes what seems like a program hanging turns out to be a dying hard drive. Usually you only find out for sure when suddenly your OS won't boot :)
 
"The problem does not manifest in the final output and that's what is really important to me."

I agree with that and personally do not consider the "transition issue" a show stopper. So long as final output is correct, I'm good.

Thanks guys for chiming in. The more that do, the better.
 
Hi Jim

I have used both CS4 and now CS5 with my HMC-151E. It is almost fine. There are som issues though.
I don´t know if you run MAC or PC - but if you run PC like me, you might be having issues with transitions between subclips made out of same clip. Take a look: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/623868?start=100&tstart=0
I also have issues with PPro freezing for a minute or five.

It seems if you have a very fast PC it will be no problem - like a i7 980X or something. I have a i7 920 with 12 GB ram and a FX3800 - but still have issues from time to time. Besides from that PPRo CS5 is very nice for editting HMC-151 files IMHO.
BTW I keep wondeing if all these issues is connected with running Windows 7 64 bit? Have not tested it on Win 7 32....

:)
Morten


Premiere Pro stalling for a minute or so has to do with antivirus. If you're running Avast, for example, and click outside the PP window and then back into the PP window, it will freeze for several seconds (or a minute, depending on........I'm not sure what). The solution is to disable AV while editing.

I'm not sure if this is a PP problem, avast problem, or a combination of the two. It happens with a few different AV programs but not all.
 
I have only begun the learning journey, using CS5 to edit HMC150 footage... I filmed a couple of 90 minute events. I import all of the AVCHD files (example 6 files named 00000, 00001, and so on) and throw them onto a timeline. For some reason, it turns out that 00001 and 00002 are the exact same piece of footage as 00000. (why?! what are those all about?) So naturally I delete all unecessary copies, and am left with 2 chunks of video to place together on the timeline. I stick em side by side, and play back the area where the 2 are connected, and sure enough, there is a complete drop of video and audio. It's hardly noticable, but it is indeed a dropout. (lessthan a second) I havent yet compared this moment in the video to a final export to see if it still drops out, but it does seem strange that there would be a dropout at the seam, when there is no dropout whatsoever at any other edit intersection.
 
Multihandle.

As I said above, do not just drag the .MTS files over to Premiere. If you're using the default editing layout view in CS5, you'll see a media browser tab in the bottom left corner of the screen. Use this media browser to browse to the PRIVATE tree and import that way. You'll see it switch to AVCHD and it will import properly. At the raw OS level, the files are limited to 4GB due to FAT32 limitations...if you import via media browser (which is the way to do it...........when I first started I just imported .MTS files directly and experience the same problem you're having) it will import the clip properly.

The same goes for P2.
 
BINGO! Thanks - works perfectly, and I have even passed the info on to another person who also found it amazingly helpful...thanks again!
 
^ Beautifully. There was very little light - so much so that the XHA1 was next to useless, and the HVX200 had to put its gain all the way up. The 150's low light performance is exemplary.

You can see how it held up in the video below. Most of the footage used is from the 150.


Really nice footage. Well done!
 
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