texas shootout?
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Emanuel
Cross-Examiner
There is another open thread@the_other_guys' forum...
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?p=510378#post510378
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?p=510378#post510378
bgundu
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Seems a little late for a shootout. I doubt it will yield any new information that we don't already know.
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
I did wonder about this Isaac.
What was the point of this shootout ? It does seem a bit late.
What was the point of this shootout ? It does seem a bit late.
DavidBeier
Veteran
It strikes me that fitting the JVC with an 8K (cheapest street price) extra lense and using an even more expensive one on the Canon kind of defeats the purpose of doing a comparison for "under 10k cameras."
Justyn
Veteran
And seems very much like an "un-real" world test... skewed and taut with negatives spewed forth right away.. like this:
I'll have more to say later, but some tidbits:
-HVX200 wasn't as good as I'd hoped, confirming earlier reports
That's the first mention of the HVX... THen sure, he adds some good points but then second fiddle's them in terms of something else...
They also don't talk about the nightmare of HDV.. and don't shoot anything resembling the kind of action and fast-paced shooting that really makes the JVC look like dog ass. I was at the races side by side with a JVC guy and he was forced to lock down the camera and let the cars race by... He couldn't zoom in and follow the action around the turns.. because it turned TO CRAP! Absolute crap....
I think it's that the HVX suffers from unfair hopes and wishes. Wanting everything and when ya can't get it all for 6k, then its poo poo the camera time.
I'll have more to say later, but some tidbits:
-HVX200 wasn't as good as I'd hoped, confirming earlier reports
That's the first mention of the HVX... THen sure, he adds some good points but then second fiddle's them in terms of something else...
They also don't talk about the nightmare of HDV.. and don't shoot anything resembling the kind of action and fast-paced shooting that really makes the JVC look like dog ass. I was at the races side by side with a JVC guy and he was forced to lock down the camera and let the cars race by... He couldn't zoom in and follow the action around the turns.. because it turned TO CRAP! Absolute crap....
I think it's that the HVX suffers from unfair hopes and wishes. Wanting everything and when ya can't get it all for 6k, then its poo poo the camera time.
They are Them
Well-known member
what IS the nightmare of HDV? as compared to the HVX200's form?
DavidBeier
Veteran
^
From what I understand, the MPEG2 compression just looks lousy.
From what I understand, the MPEG2 compression just looks lousy.
John_Hudson said:
i have only read about the LA shootout and here are the complaints I heard about it:
1) not enough time to conduct the test
2) test overemphasized rez charts and didn't do actual real world shots/comparisons
3) canon wasn't adequately represented
4) the footage was all viewed straight out the head
5) coffee wasn't very fresh
so, yeah, maybe some more testing IS in order...
As much as I love staring at res charts :happy: , I think actual filmmaking is the best real world test. You can read about a shootout and it might say that the FX1 is worthless for filmmaking, and then you'll see a film by Macgregor that is visually amazing.
I feel like a broken :violin: saying this, but it's worth mentioning every few months, we're getting to the point where the limiting factors are talent and creativity.
That doesn't mean I won't have camera lust when Red is released.
I feel like a broken :violin: saying this, but it's worth mentioning every few months, we're getting to the point where the limiting factors are talent and creativity.
That doesn't mean I won't have camera lust when Red is released.
Brandon Rice
Distributed Producer
I've got the camera lust for the HVX NOW!
androbot2084
Carbonite Member
It is unfortunate that everyone is so hung up on that 24p film look that they don't concentrate on the HVX200 main advantage which is the ability to capture 720p at a full 60 frames per second. It is true that as a fixed studio camera and with and additional $10,000 worth of recording equipment 720p60 can be captured from the JVC but the HVX200 is the only camera that can capture 720p60 with full portability making it the ideal camera for the fast action sports.
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
:cheesy: :laugh:
Totally agree and that speaks for myself. Very few people on this site (Not me) are actually doing any work that merits this kind of scrutiny.
Unfortunate ? 24p or it's nothing for filmmaking purposes.
Barry_Green
Moderator
I'm with androbot on that point -- the 720/60p is just phenomenal for sports. I still think that UCLA basketball footage we shot was some of the best-looking stuff!androbot2084 said: