Test footage of GH2 on top of an AF100 w/Lumix 14 - 140mm on both

I just saw this post for the first time, and in the past few minutes watched the first version, read the responses (I guess the ones that weren't deleted), and finished this little adventure with the new version that was recently posted.

And, my take on this video and the discussion is entirely different. I'm not seeing the camera debate -- I'm seeing that GH1 "kit lens" in action -- and I'm seeing two capable cameras being murdered by that GH1 kit lens.

In other words -- stick quality glass on either of those cameras and you've suddenly got two new cameras.

Frankly, I'm convinced that there's going to be an entire crowd out there that buys the AF-100, sticks that kit lens on it, and then Sony (and their devotees) throws the party of the decade.

And, if you think that GH1 kit lens is awesome and you want to argue my point -- I respectfully request that you argue the point by providing links to mind blowing footage captured with that GH1 kit lens. It doesn't matter what camera it was on (GH1, GH13, GH2, whatever) -- please show me the mind blowing footage. And, if I'm wrong -- I'll happily come back to this thread and declare to the DVX universe that I was wrong.

Bottom line -- I'm convinced that GH1 kit lens is the biggest enemy this new AF-100 faces.
 
I really do not agree with the, "glass is everything" bunch. Frankly, I think it's at the very bottom of the list of important factors in the beauty of the image. Yes, of course it makes a difference, but a very subtle one, except in the maximum aperture area where it can have a quite profound influence. For example, a cheapo 85MM f1.4 can make a very beautiful shallow DOF portrait shot that I do not believe is readily distinguishable from much more expensive lenses of the same aperture. Otherwise, no one would ever have to ask what lens was used in a shot; we would all know!

On this particular camera test, while I'm loathe to criticize anyone who makes an effort to help this community, there were so many problems in execution I question it's value. As apposed to some others here, I thought it showed the GH2 unacceptable for motion picture work. I'm not saying that is in fact the case, but it's the conclusion I draw from the footage.

Good shooting and best regards,

Leo
 
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The kit lens is mighty fine. This glass topic has been discussed to death. There are more factors than just saying the glass will fix it. Not true at all.
 
Ticheli said:
I really do not agree with the, "glass is everything" bunch. Frankly, I think it's at the very bottom of the list of important factors in the beauty of the image. Yes, of course it makes a difference, but a very subtle one, except in the maximum aperture area where it can have a quite profound influence. For example, a cheapo 85MM f1.4 can make a very beautiful shallow DOF portrait shot that I do not believe is readily distinguishable from much more expensive lenses of the same aperture. Otherwise, no one would ever have to ask what lens was used in a shot; we would all know!

On this particular camera test, while I'm loathe to criticize anyone who makes an effort to help this community, there were so many problems in execution I question it's value. As apposed to some others here, I thought it showed the GH2 unacceptable for motion picture work. I'm not saying that is in fact the case, but it's the conclusion I draw from the footage.

Good shooting and best regards,

Leo
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what a great post by my favorite poster. the glass difference is subtle and not noticeable in the slightest by anyone other than most trained eyes. i've seen videos of gh1 with crappy 25$ FD lenses and same subject shot with Leica 3000-5000$ glass and Zeiss glass and the image is almost indistinguishable. hell, Leo here himself shot the same image with AF100 with 300$ pancake 20mm f1.7 and high end Zeiss lens and I actually preferred the look of the pancake more and both were barely distinguishable. glass doesn't make the difference, t he lighting framing and acting does
 
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