Temp FAQ

As the onboard mike is only a stereo one I somehow doubt it. Full 5.1 surround tracks are rarely if ever recorded 'naturally' but created in sound post production and mixing.
 
I don't know if you guys noticed, but the Panny site now says shipping in 7-10 days. We're getting there!
 
well now that it looks like more people are going to be getting their gh1, I think this FAQ or a new thread should be developed to condense the information available as to the recommended settings people should be filming based on various situations so as to produce the best the quality footage... just a thought

thank you in advance to anyone that has one and can provide others with some insight
 
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I know other posts in the forum related the type of SD card you can use with the GH1 (a little bit everywhere in the forum :) but it could be useful to add this information in this temp FAQ
 
1k0 said:
I know other posts in the forum related the type of SD card you can use with the GH1 (a little bit everywhere in the forum :) but it could be useful to add this information in this temp FAQ
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I'm shooting with Sandisk Video HD sdhc cards that have a class 4 rating. Cheaper than the class 6 cards, lowest price currently at B&H is $20. So far no problem.
Here's a link

Longest clip I have tested these cards was 6 minutes at 1080p AVCHD on a GH1 and 1hr 30m at 1080p AVCHD 17mbps on a HF100.

Later today I will test with a GH1 and leave it till the card runs out of space which I am guessing will be over a 1hr continuous clip. I'll post my results then.

EDIT
Hey Jack. I finished that test with a 1hr shot on a class 4 card. Also tested H4 audio sync at the same time. Class 4 cards seem OK but H4 audio drifts. Results are at this thread LINK
 
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Thank you for the very informative FAQ Jack. I've been trying to read almost every post about the GH-1 since it was first announced, but it's good to see it condensed and summarized. I've also picked up some new information I've missed as well.

It's posts like this that make me feel that dvxuser would greatly benefit from having its own wiki. I wouldn't mind setting one up.
 
Updated FAQ 7 to have correct info about the Zoom H4's phantom power abilities, plus a link to a thread about mounting it. Thanks for the correction and the mounting thread, Jhoe (J Davis).
 
..i looked around for abit and figured it would be faster to ask here after a while, but is the AVCHD inter or intra?

..and dang im going to be disappointed if panny fails to make an inexpensive 4/3" ( or larger sensor) HD prosumer/PRO dedicated camcorder with higher data rates after this.
 
AVCHD is interframe long-GOP. It's an extended, higher-level HDV. Still long-GoP, still 8-bit, still 4:2:0, but AVC encoding instead of MPEG-2.
 
;) light bulb is on now, thanks. i was thinking that AVCHD could use intra as well (HPX 170)..BUUUT they call that AVC-intra to distinguish it. i guess i never really realized that two monakers were entirely distinct from each other untill now.

anyway, they really should stick one of these ..or better sensors in a HVX/HPX body though and tie it to a DVCPRO-HD or better format pipeline.
 
And add a comparable / comparably versatile lens system.

We've got the sensor and the lens in one camera, and the codec in the other. Though AVCHD is supposed to be awesome if implemented well (HMC 150).

I'd be fine with AVCHD if it was implemted as well as the HMC150. With DVCproHD the price will start to climb, beginning with recording media.
 
.. id still rather have intra frame recording though for post purposes. cost would go up with storage for better codec, but it would still be affordable all things considered. ..they should throw in a CF slot and let you use CF or high speed SD to record on though. or external firewire or anything besides only letting you use P2, but really even if it was back to that, id buy it in a heartbeat if it was the same or lesser cost of HVX with cards, and seeing as they can cram it into a little SLR they should drastically shrink the body of the camcorder down to save weight and size as well. id like a little honeywell elmo looking panny with that nice lense on the GH1 and everything nice and compact and light. ..the GH1 is awsome as is, but theres just so much potential for a great cinema camera there if they play the cards right with all this new technology. ..i mean the reds are great, but all the storage issues and such is a little disconcerting. .. not to say im not getting one :), but even the fixed lense scarlet is only 2/3 inch @ 3x the cost (+ other things still needed) of this thing @ 1200, and this is roughly a s35mm format video camera image wise for all practical purposes.. just it would be great to have something professional, small and simple that shoots 1080 or 2k 24p and some 720p at higher FPS in small camcorder package, and does it very very well. thats really all most of us need or want. i think whoever gets it into a small camcoder formfactor first with normal prosumer/pro type control and feel is going to hit a jackpot. do things like copy the input for electronic focus ring off the lense barrel and put it onto a small built in follow focus like wheel that is on both sides of cam with standard crank plug. im perfectly happy with an HVX on a letus EX.. i just want it small and light and low light capeable, and id be good to go. .. and if they can make the GH1 with a street price of apx 1200 i dont know why they couldnt make an awsome little pro cine cam for apx 2000-2500 that boasts better recoding format, XLrs and all that jazz. give us the same ISO selection and features on GH1 so we can use it like a film cam and run and gun and drop and drag into post with.

ive been debating picking one of these GH1s up but i just keep crossing my fingers that they will release some camcorders to follow it up.


..although my wife could use a nice SLR type cam for christamas anyway...so maybe i can just borrow it from time to time untill someone makes an affordable camcorder like it :)
 
I'm not entirely sure if this question has been answered but while recording video, can you watch what your recording through the lcd screen live?
 
I'm confused about 30p and 60p. Can you record 60p MJPEG? Or is 60p only when you are on avchd?
I thought I recorded a bunch of 60p shots just by having the shutter speed over 1/60th in MJPEG mode...??? But now.. which ones were they? Other than a slate, is there a way to tell which is which when you have the files on the computer? (G5 mac/ voltaic workflow)
 
Tim, do you have a users manual,lol?
As stated there and in this thread you have three shooting modes:
1080 24p AVCHD
720 60p AVCHD
720 30p MJPEG
Shooting at a shutter of 1/60th in 30p MJPEG mode will not give you 60p MJPEG anymore than shooting 1/120th would give you 120p MJPEG.

If you shoot 60p AVCHD at 1/50th or slower it will force the camera into an undesirable hack where it gives you doubled frames essentially creating 30p in a 60p wrapper just because you can't have a shutter speed lower than your frame rate (that would mean a shutter angle of greater than 360º). But there is no limit as to how fast you can make your shutter speed. Except for what I just mentioned, shutter speed will not change your frame rate.


As for finding them afterwards - MJPEGs are in the DCIM folder. AVCHD is in the private folder.
As for determining whether you have 60p or 30p just bring it into something. QuickTime? FCP? either will note what frame rate you have. If you'd like to know if you accidently got the bad 30p wrapped in 60p hack, then frame by frame your video. If you got the 30p in 60p every frame will be doubled.
 
yes I have the manual, but those things are for pansies.. REAL men like me go out and shoot a bunch of high action deathrace footage of guys crawling though mud, rivers, under barbed-wire, chopping wood...etc- thinking I'm shooting some awesome 60p slowmo footage... but not. whoops. Guess that manual could've come in handy there!

Nowhere in the camera menu do I see 60p, so I'm assuming it must be the HD quality setting instead of FHD when in acvhd mode?

Thanks!
 
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