Syncro Scan

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enrico

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Anybody have any tips/suggestions for effective settings filming a regular tv monitor (I'm shooting in 24p advanced)? I tried it last night and couldn't get rid of the lines. How good a resolution is it possible to expect?
 
If you can't get it with the Syncro Scan setting, try kicking in the regular shutter to 1/60 and see if that does it for you.
 
enrico said:
Anybody have any tips/suggestions for effective settings filming a regular tv monitor (I'm shooting in 24p advanced)? I tried it last night and couldn't get rid of the lines.
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It might just keep the band from rolling, not make it disappear.

enrico said:
How good a resolution is it possible to expect?
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Or are you talking about those 525 horizontal lines on the screen? They're not going anywhere...unless you cut the res of DV down...which you can't. :)
 
Thanks very much for the feedback! I'm just referring to a regular tv monitor. I wasn't sure how clean a resolution to expect filming a tv screen. Would I get a better results not filming in 24p advanced?

thanks again
 
The framerate shouldn't matter, if you're talking about a tv monitor of any sort...

Can you post a sample of what you're talking about?
 
enrico said:
(I'm shooting in 24p advanced)?
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"Well, there's your problem right there!"

A TV screen cycles at 59.94 fields per second, aka 30fps, so all you have to do is shoot those shots in 60i or 30p, and you're set! Simple!

If you must get the 24p look, you can apply a 24pA pulldown in editing for those specific shots (it won't be perfect, but it's your only option).

Hollywood studios have had this problem forever, and they developed special TV and computer monitors that refresh at rates that match film to compensate, but... they are enormously expensive and very buggy, and have to be calabrated and aligned perfectly to both each other (if there are multiple screens in the scene) and the film camera itself. You can imagine that this is pretty difficult to achive.

So you're stuck with the problem, but you should be thankful that you can simply switch to 60i/30p instead of having to buy and calebrate a new TV that isn't much more than a prop.
 
"TV monitor"

TV or production monitor? That's the real question. If a monitor, then the firewire-out->DV cam or deck or converter->composite video conversion should take care of any framerate problems.

Even a regular TV hooked up like that should.

At least, I've never had any problems with them.
 
HorseFilms said:
If you can't get it with the Syncro Scan setting, try kicking in the regular shutter to 1/60 and see if that does it for you.
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Hmm Im not sure why you cant get a reasonable result with syncro scan as Horse said.

If nothing is working you can always mask in footage that you have shot yourself to the tv in the shot.
 
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