Sync sound with Super 16

[Rippie]

Since I heard about the color vs. black and white sticks so long ago
I decided to look it up real quick.
Seems that one of the reasons they like b & w is they show up better in low light.
Also seems that since the color chips dont have consistancy board to board they are useless
in reality.

 

[KnoxHotch]

I love my B&S color sticks, even if they're not 100% accurate, they work as good references between shots and are accurate enough for me to correct most WB problems in post (vegas 3 color wheel, find black, white, and which ever grey I like better). One of the best gifts my girlfriend has gotten me

 

[DJDecay]

Since I heard about the color vs. black and white sticks so long ago
I decided to look it up real quick.
Seems that one of the reasons they like b & w is they show up better in low light.
Also seems that since the color chips dont have consistancy board to board they are useless
in reality.

Two labs here in NYC said they preferred some base color reference when doing one-light transfers. - Obviously I'm not going to stick a gretag color chart on the slate and yes BW is more visible in low light. Which is obviously something you don't really need when shooting HD or when syncing sound to picture for dailies.

Yes cheap lexan slates with colorbars are way off, but it's still a point of reference for onelight and esp. good if you're not sitting in for best-light - as the colors on the slate are off, but consistent from scene A to scene B unless you swap the slate out,
so that reference point give an overall idea that that red bar should be this red with this stock etc...

It's utterly useless when doing DI though, at 4:4:4 at Linear or Log, but if the output is a 4:2:2 SD proxy only with pull-down, a uniform look from shot to shot in the same scene is easier when you got some consistent colors showing up on the slate, saves them time on tuning the Xenon bulb, saves people money on telecine (definately not applicable to DI)

If the OP is doing a Super 16, his initial telecine (aside from DVD rushes) will most likely be Digibeta SD telecine with sync sound, then a rerun from EDL at HD with sit-in color or DI and EDL conform.

 

[Noiz2]

DJ,

Dispite everything I said I would agree that a real slate with dryerase is a better choice.
That drift must be operator error somewhere.

And I don't even try to do subframe sync in FCP. If you are and PluralEyes does that then it's worth every cent. Anything I'm doing syncing on is going to audio post (often me) and I'll be resyncing there anyway, or checking anyway. I have rarely gotten sound from picture that was dead on. But a lot of editors are using displays that havent been latency compensated so maybe they just don't see it?