Still too noisy. Any clean setting?

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someday

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Ehi, nobody told that the HVX has TOO MUCH noise.
Yes there are setting with low noise but they have an horribly low contrast, low color and yellowish tone.
Does anybody have a setting that is low noise and renders some more contrast and color?

Thank you.


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Hiya,

firstly can we have some things from you so we can help?

1. Can we see screen grabs of what you've been filming, if possible at the resolution you are shooting at. JPEGs are fine.
2. Can you tell us what settings you are using, in particular which gamma setting as some are far noisier than others. If you can advise on detail level, coring etc...
3. Also what lighting conditions are you shooting in? Are you shooting at night, day time, with lights, without etc...

Thanks !

Richard M.
 
And are you using a 35mm adaptor? Low lighting plus adaptors will get you noisy footage. Post stills and more information if you want a more in depth answer on how to fix the problem.
 
The 35mm adapter adds it's little grain but has nothing to do with the bands and color pixelation of the camera.



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its an 8 bit camera it will band no matter what you do.

at some point just admit that its a 6,000$ camera and look to the fact that you get variframerates and a 1080/720 camera in one package. i think its attributes out weight its "noise"..... by far.
 
Again, post some stills. We have no idea what you're looking at.


As far as contrast goes, lighting and tweaking user settings should do the trick.
 
I had a wierd experience with noise yesterday. The footage looks great on the computer monitor and LCD but my Sanyo HDTV made it super noisy in the near-blacks.

Is there a diagram of HVX gamma settings somewhere? If I could see the curves as lines I think I could remember and use them more effectively.
 
I don't see noise, this was an almost dark room with just stage lighting I had no control over. This was the first thing I shot with the camera. 720p 24pn mode. Cinelike V settings with no modification. 1/24th shutter, auto wb and autofocus were on because I didn't know any better.
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ProfessorU said:
I had a wierd experience with noise yesterday. The footage looks great on the computer monitor and LCD but my Sanyo HDTV made it super noisy in the near-blacks.
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I would only trust a calibrated HD monitor. Computer monitors and HDTV LCD's lie because you're dealing with factory settings that are often skewed to make the image pop from oversaturation and sharpness settings set to high.
 
I know exactly what you're talking about man! 0 dB, my live picture out of the component cables was noisy and it was clear daylight outside! Will my picture improve once it is compressed to DVCPro HD? I hope someone can answer this (I'm using a Firestore and couldn't view my recorded footage in HD).
 
The image will definitely not improve. Throw as much light as you can, find scene files that work... not much else you can do at this point.

Chalk it up as being part of the 5k package.
 
I know that monitors will show different levels of noise... the main thing is that the noise still exists regardless. Is the monitor thing just to make people feel better?

As far as it being a 5k camera and the compression artifcating exhibited, it's fine... although Hydra is a consideration. Might not be going that route since November is almost here.
 
I seriously never understand these noise threads...I mean we shoot on the HVX ALL THE TIME, and I don't see all of this crazy noise in our stuff...I was talking to Timur about this a couple of weeks ago. I don't get it about the noise...

Edit to add: I guess if you are shooting in conditions you cannot control, you'll see it more than if you actually know how to light a scene. But you know what, I've been watching the Shield a lot this year, much of which is shot on 16mm in what looks like available light, and even that 16 they use is crazy noisy and grainy like a mother-****er.
 
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Hey, I don't expect it to perform like a 300k camera, either. I've gotten over the whole noise thing. Just that hiding it with a good monitor isn't making it disappear.

The best you can do is light appropriately and learn your camera. If it makes you feel better, use a better monitor and ignore the noise altogether.

Otherwise, time to buy a new camera, yeah? (Not to Mark Harris but overall.)
 
I guess that is my point. Noise is part of the deal. Like with the 16 I mentioned. That's just how it is. So I agree. Light for it, or upgrade. same thing with 16 to 35, say...

That said, it's not hard to get an amazing image out of the HVX if you know how to light. I say this all the time, but most people on this site will probably never exhaust its possibilities before needing something more.
 
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