source for silks?
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Jim Brennan
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Re: source for silks?
Hmmm. I bought a few yards of different types of material. They are all nylon. One is a flag bunting, one is a heavier cordura, and I don't remember the third. Think back pack/tent material. I don't know if they are flame retardant, but my home-mades keep the material over a foot from the bulb (a 500 wat worklight). I've had them on for an hour at a time with no problems. I got them at a big fabric store. None of them were over 10 bucks a yard. They all diffuse differently, and I am still experimenting with them.
Hmmm. I bought a few yards of different types of material. They are all nylon. One is a flag bunting, one is a heavier cordura, and I don't remember the third. Think back pack/tent material. I don't know if they are flame retardant, but my home-mades keep the material over a foot from the bulb (a 500 wat worklight). I've had them on for an hour at a time with no problems. I got them at a big fabric store. None of them were over 10 bucks a yard. They all diffuse differently, and I am still experimenting with them.
Re: source for silks?
White polyester silk is available through fabric stores. They even sell the color coded nylon banding to finish the edges.
If you're on the left coast, you can look up the King family in Buena Park who own a company specializing in soft-goods mfg. for films - Independent Rental and Sewing. In addition to the basics, they make some proprietary stuff for use on their own features.
The Kings grip for DP Robert Richardson on a regular basis and have come up with some wacky rigs to achieve the look he demands. I don't have their number anymore, but used to buy all my open face, butterfly and overhead fabrics from them. Nice folks.
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White polyester silk is available through fabric stores. They even sell the color coded nylon banding to finish the edges.
If you're on the left coast, you can look up the King family in Buena Park who own a company specializing in soft-goods mfg. for films - Independent Rental and Sewing. In addition to the basics, they make some proprietary stuff for use on their own features.
The Kings grip for DP Robert Richardson on a regular basis and have come up with some wacky rigs to achieve the look he demands. I don't have their number anymore, but used to buy all my open face, butterfly and overhead fabrics from them. Nice folks.
e
Jim Brennan
VHS Member Old Skool
Re: source for silks?
[quote author=GenJerDan link=board=lighting;num=1104603944;start=0#3 date=01/05/05 at 05:36:15]
Nylon? And it doesn't melt?
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Nope, but I keep them a good distance from the light.
[quote author=GenJerDan link=board=lighting;num=1104603944;start=0#3 date=01/05/05 at 05:36:15]
Nylon? And it doesn't melt?
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Nope, but I keep them a good distance from the light.
Re: source for silks?
realize that quartz bulbs can explode and will spray very hot stuff on to your silk and if it's not flame retardant, it will ignite. plus the heat can build up quite high inside a chimera, since it is enclosed. Spontanius combustion can happen if things get hot enough. I don't think it's worth the hazzard.
You can buy just replacement silks from Chimera but the bag that surrounds the light is also flame retardent. There's a reason things cost what they do. I find Chimeras and the copies to be very reasonably priced for the durability you get.
Also, you will probably be altering your color temp. and that will change as the heat discolors the material.
realize that quartz bulbs can explode and will spray very hot stuff on to your silk and if it's not flame retardant, it will ignite. plus the heat can build up quite high inside a chimera, since it is enclosed. Spontanius combustion can happen if things get hot enough. I don't think it's worth the hazzard.
You can buy just replacement silks from Chimera but the bag that surrounds the light is also flame retardent. There's a reason things cost what they do. I find Chimeras and the copies to be very reasonably priced for the durability you get.
Also, you will probably be altering your color temp. and that will change as the heat discolors the material.
Jim Brennan
VHS Member Old Skool
Re: source for silks?
I don't have a tent on mine. I have to throw up a flag on a stand now and again for light spill, but I don't want to worry about the heat build up. Really, after as much as an hour, the diffuser is warm, but NOT hot. And I have had zero problems with color temp. I also keep the glass shield in place in case the bulb explodes. For me it was a worthwhile, low budget alternative to an expensive softbox.
I don't have a tent on mine. I have to throw up a flag on a stand now and again for light spill, but I don't want to worry about the heat build up. Really, after as much as an hour, the diffuser is warm, but NOT hot. And I have had zero problems with color temp. I also keep the glass shield in place in case the bulb explodes. For me it was a worthwhile, low budget alternative to an expensive softbox.
Re: source for silks?
My stepson, a former videographer, gave me a roll of a plastic sheeting material for light diffusion. He said it wouldn't burn, but it could melt. It's rolled up with a sheet of clear plastic to protect it. Anyone know what this is and how it would compare to fabric?
My stepson, a former videographer, gave me a roll of a plastic sheeting material for light diffusion. He said it wouldn't burn, but it could melt. It's rolled up with a sheet of clear plastic to protect it. Anyone know what this is and how it would compare to fabric?
j
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Re: source for silks?
If it is on a stiff cardboard tube, and about 4' long, it sound like a diffusion. Lee, or Roscoe, or some other. For that you would clip it onto the outside (0r inside) of the barn doors.
As for how it would comapre to fabric, it's used in a slightly different way. It still diffuses the light, but the source is smaller. One thing you could do is attach it to a 4x4' "gel frame" and clamp that onto a c-stand. That works well.
Does it have any number on it, like 216, or something like that?
When you hold it up to say a light bulb across the room, can you see a point source coming thru, or is it just milk?
-j
If it is on a stiff cardboard tube, and about 4' long, it sound like a diffusion. Lee, or Roscoe, or some other. For that you would clip it onto the outside (0r inside) of the barn doors.
As for how it would comapre to fabric, it's used in a slightly different way. It still diffuses the light, but the source is smaller. One thing you could do is attach it to a 4x4' "gel frame" and clamp that onto a c-stand. That works well.
Does it have any number on it, like 216, or something like that?
When you hold it up to say a light bulb across the room, can you see a point source coming thru, or is it just milk?
-j
Terry_Lasater
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Re: source for silks?
[quote author=webpro link=board=lighting;num=1104603944;start=0#9 date=01/10/05 at 08:39:54]Get aparachute from a surplus store[/quote]
That's a good idea. However, if you are shooting something with a highly reflective surface (like a car's windshield), then you might see the numerous seams within a parachute.
[quote author=webpro link=board=lighting;num=1104603944;start=0#9 date=01/10/05 at 08:39:54]Get aparachute from a surplus store[/quote]
That's a good idea. However, if you are shooting something with a highly reflective surface (like a car's windshield), then you might see the numerous seams within a parachute.
Jim Brennan
VHS Member Old Skool
Re: source for silks?
WAlter Graff posted this link in another thread. If I had known about these, I would have saved myself the trouble.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=search&Q=&b=25 3&Submit.x=11&Submit.y=13&shs=lite+panels&ci=1&ac=
WAlter Graff posted this link in another thread. If I had known about these, I would have saved myself the trouble.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=search&Q=&b=25 3&Submit.x=11&Submit.y=13&shs=lite+panels&ci=1&ac=