Has anyone any experience with the new Sony UWP-V1?
How good or bad does it sound when compared to Senn 100 G2?
Thanks,
T
How good or bad does it sound when compared to Senn 100 G2?
Thanks,
T
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Sony UWP-V1
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if its anything like the UWP-C1, which i think is the previous model, I've had excellent results with it. The standard lav that comes with it does a very good job. Sounds very bassy in a good compressed broadcasty way. Much better than the lav mic that comes with the G2. I had to do some post eq on audio from the g2 but the sony sounded so good i left it as it is. This was for corporate work by the way.
Guy_Cochran
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We recently did an informal walk test. Measured out 200' and walked with both the Sony UWP-V1 and the Sennheiser Evolution G2 across a park - line of site. Receivers both pointed as horizontal on the shoe mount. Both handled great up to the 200' mark. As I went over a small hill to about the 225' mark, the Sony was still clear and the Sennheiser was starting to drop.
We sell both system in the DVeStore, I like them both, but if you're going for just range, the Sony wins so far. I'll have to perform another side by side to confirm. I'll put up the video showing the tape measure and the distance here soon. The bummer about the Sony though, it was taking in the interference from my iPhone while the Sennheiser was not. Very interesting.
We sell both system in the DVeStore, I like them both, but if you're going for just range, the Sony wins so far. I'll have to perform another side by side to confirm. I'll put up the video showing the tape measure and the distance here soon. The bummer about the Sony though, it was taking in the interference from my iPhone while the Sennheiser was not. Very interesting.
Yeah, that's where it gets interesting, the internal shielding - so basic and yet so not documented.
T
Guy, which system can you recommend for sound quality out of the box?
I assume the Sony feels kind of better and more robust but does the kit mic sound better than the Sennheiser's. Also how small is the Sony's included mic?
Thanks in advance,
T
RandomHero
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I think you caught my bad side in the picture Guy... :0)
Guy_Cochran
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I'll have to listen to the two over some studio monitors to really say which one actually sounds better. Or I'll just put the samples up and let everyone else decide.
They both feel robust as far as build quality construction and user interface.
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They both feel robust as far as build quality construction and user interface.
Okay, which is your good side so I know next time
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timapter
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birndas - how can you say the uwp supplied mic is better than the me2 supplied with the G2??? THAT THING IS HUGE!!!! And the uwp-c1 was always a victim to horrific companding breathing in its audio.... something the G2 avoids.
And of course, when it comes to range, the sony SHOULD win as it is a diversity system, giving it a lil bit of an edge...
And of course, when it comes to range, the sony SHOULD win as it is a diversity system, giving it a lil bit of an edge...
its a personal opinion. I used both for a corporate event so hiding the mic wasn't necessary. We positioned the mic on their ties at their sternum so it didn't have any bad breathing problems. When it came to editing, the sony mic sounded a lot better than the g2 to my ears. The difference was like night and day.
I read that the new mic included with the new and improved UWP V-1 is slightly smaller than the one included with the older C-1.
Well still waiting for opinions if the UWP V-1 could be better than the Senn EW 100 G2...
T
RandomHero
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The picture posted above by Guy Cochran is a picture of the new V-1 with included microphone. We tested both systems, are planning on doing a bit more and then will release the tests for everyone to decide for themselves. Personally, I think the V-1 will be a tough competitor.
RandomHero
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I would say you can't go wrong either way. In our testing, the sound quality of both systems was almost identical. The range was roughly the same, although at 225' the G2 began to cut out a little, and the Sony was still strong. However, at close range the Sony picked up a little interference from Guy's iPhone. This only happened during the first test though, and we believe we've isolated the problem to being a bad cable. As I said, the finished test will be released in a Podcast from www.dvestore.com , so you can judge for yourself. But personally, if I had a 600-700 budget, I'd get the Sony and try to get a Countryman Lav anyway, as the V1 is $50 cheaper. Then again, the G2 is very tried-and-true.
Also, we tested both plug on transmitters, the Sennheiser SKP100 for G2 wireless and the Sony V6, and both had an incredible range that will be included in the video. Both EW100 G2 and UWP-V6 are priced at $699, so it's a straight across toss-up. Look forward to the video, we're working hard to get it released, and be as thurough as possible.
RandomHero
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Honestly couldn't say. Haven't matched them up next to each other. However, we're getting in an AT 4000 series I believe it is, a true dual wireless system. We ordered the one that will support 2 separate wireless lav+ transmitter to one receiver. Very excited to try that one out.
I just tested and the Sennheiser EW100 G2 had GSM/Cell interference problems too at close range but wired and Phantom powered and balanced AT lavalier had the same interference issues near the fullsize XLR adaptor/power module go figure that out, I tried different recorders and audio interfaces and the wired one got interfered each time at the connection, actually Sennheiser wireless interfered by mobile phone signals sounded much nicer than the interference from a wired lav. All that was at close range, I had the cellphone closer than one feet to generate interference.
Waiting for that review,
T
Waiting for that review,
T
RandomHero
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In our testing the Sennheiser EW100 G2 didn't get the cell phone interference. It was the Sony that was interfered with at first. However, in subsequent tests we were unable to duplicate the interference that we'd gotten in those first tests, which made us question if it was a bad cable or something of that nature. So far our only opinion is that the Sony is definitely a strong competitor in this market for the price point. Both have excellent range, good sounding audio, and excellent included lavs. Obviously lavs are easy to upgrade for better performance, but for the guy who wants a solid wireless kit ready to plug in and go, you can't go wrong either way. We're still working on our tests, but I'll say it again, YOU CAN'T GO WRONG!! These are excellent systems.
Noise floor?
Noise floor?
Greetings, all!
This is my first post here, but I have been researching wireless systems, specifically the SONY in question here, and it's good to find a conversation about it!
So in these side-by-sides, how's the self-noise? In looking at the specs from the manufacturer, Sennheiser claims 110dB s/n, whereas Sony claims only 60dB s/n.
In the practical world, do these systems have any hiss?
And about the cell phone interference, I've not been on a set where we haven't asked that all phones are off. Period. Even with the high-end Lectrosonics units, I've had many takes busted by a phone - silenced - vibrating on an incoming call. I knew when a Nextel user was getting a call before the Nextel user knew.
But again, really wondering about hiss here. I have heard that the AT 1800 series has a considerable noise floor, but have not experienced that system myself.
Peace,
C2V
Noise floor?
Greetings, all!
This is my first post here, but I have been researching wireless systems, specifically the SONY in question here, and it's good to find a conversation about it!
So in these side-by-sides, how's the self-noise? In looking at the specs from the manufacturer, Sennheiser claims 110dB s/n, whereas Sony claims only 60dB s/n.
In the practical world, do these systems have any hiss?
And about the cell phone interference, I've not been on a set where we haven't asked that all phones are off. Period. Even with the high-end Lectrosonics units, I've had many takes busted by a phone - silenced - vibrating on an incoming call. I knew when a Nextel user was getting a call before the Nextel user knew.
But again, really wondering about hiss here. I have heard that the AT 1800 series has a considerable noise floor, but have not experienced that system myself.
Peace,
C2V
RandomHero
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The cell phone issue wasn't even intentionally tested. Typically all sets are going to ask for cell phones off, and the funny part was it was Guy turning off his phone at first that caused the interference. At first I thought it was just the headphones I was using, but the interference was still there in post, so while it may not matter to people who won't have them on, it was just something to be considered. And again, we couldn't duplicate the interference after that one shoot, so it could have been a number of issues.
Neither the Sennheiser nor the Sony had any hiss problems that we found so far. We even put Guy up near a water fountain (about 50' away, 25' tall fountain) and by the audio you'd never be able to tell he'd left the studio.
We're still looking to do more testing on the units side by side, to really dig in and make them work, which is why nothing further has been posted just yet. Still, with what we have done, the Sony is definitely a force to be reckonned with.
Oh, and the UWP-V1 comes with 3 extra windscreens for the Lav. Just a little icing on the cake