Sony PMW-X70

This looks nice.

Dual CF card recording, XAVC, Large sensor, built in ND filters, 10 bit and XLR inputs

This looks like a camera that a lot of people have been asking for.
 
From the guestimates I've read so far on various camera forums, blogs etc. the likely price is $2,500-3000…probably nearer the top end of that - but of course we'll have to wait and see.
 
Gillvane said:
Almost. Is it to much to ask for interchangeable lenses?
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I like that this is a fixed zoom, the sensor is small compared to DSLRs so glass might be a issue. This is definitely a camcorder for doc and event work.

The interchangeable lens camera I want from Sony has a a7s sensor in it.
 
Looks lovely. A perfect camera for event, documentary and broadcast shooting. Maybe weddings too. Very nice ergonomic design with NDs, XLRs, Dual media, large sensor (s16), etc

I find the fixed versatile zoom lens an advantage and time saver for this kind of camera, where you just want to record and not be busy changing lenses and lugging a bag of them around.

Wedding, and cinema cameras with s35 sensors need interchangeable lenses though, and I am sure Sony will have a camera for those guys in the next FS100 upgrade range. If Sony wants to steal the C100/300 domination, they would put the A7s sensor inside this camcorder body with an E mount on the front, make it record 1080p 4:2:2 50mbit XAVC internally for broadcast, and output 4K 4:2:2 over HDMI and HDSDI. Keepbit around 5-6K.
 
Ebrahim Saadawi said:
If Sony wants to steal the C100/300 domination, they would put the A7s sensor inside this camcorder body with an E mount on the front, make it record 1080p 4:2:2 50mbit XAVC internally for broadcast, and output 4K 4:2:2 over HDMI and HDSDI. Keepbit around 5-6K.
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I think that's a good idea, but I think Sony should use the guts and specs of the PXW-Z100:

  • XAVC: MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 compression for HD (1,920 x 1,080), QFHD (3,840 x 2016), and DCI 4K (4,096 x 2,160)
  • 4:2:2 10-bit intra-frame recording at a maximum data rate of 600 Mbps (for 4K 60p) and 223 Mbps (HD at 60p)
  • XAVC long GOP for extended recording time, AVCHD codec recording
  • Two XQD slots or as an alternative, a 6G SATA SSD
 
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Back to the main topic: This camera is quoted to have 10-11 stops of DR, if true that wouldn't be bad but neither exciting. This footage here
was shot by Alaister Chapman who later wrote he could have avoided highlight clipping by underexposing the shots and lifting the shadows in post - at least the codec seems to excel. While this 1" sensor has its good aspects, I really don't like the out of the box look of it that this camera shares with the RX10, RX100 and AX100. Too contrasty, too punchy. I hope there is a flat log-like profile but even after an extensive web search I couldn't find any hint. It's probably too early and I hope some cinematic setting will show up and stand extensive testing.
 
It's so close, and I want to believe... But with no timecode sync, it's won't be an option for most broadcast applications.
 
Why are we getting so much 4k from Sony, but Panasonic won't give us any? :(
Or have I just missed it?

With what Sony are coming out with, if Pany is hoping that everyone will upgrade from the 151 to the 161 before they announce a 4k, then they are dreaming!
 
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its hard to imagine that panasonic doesn't have an AF 200 type of camera coming up soon. with how impressive the GH4 is i can't see why we won't see an AF ish type of 4k to show up soon.

david
 
Any video for seeing this camera in low light conditions?
I was interesting in a pxw-x160 but this camera seems that will not have an update for 4k, its right?
 
robster180 said:
...Am I the only person excited about this camera?
Am I right in thinking it's the sensor from the RX100 compact?
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No you're certainly not the only one, I am very excited about it. At this price point all cameras have compromises, but I like the decisions that were made for this one -

Sensor - Not S35, but S16 - Can still get a shallow dof fairly easily, and it should perform well in lower light.
Lens - Not interchangeable, but a decently fast zoom with ND filters - So yes, one can't put their favorite glass on, but it's great in the sense you're covered for a lot of ground at much less cost.
Recording system - Not raw, but 10 bit 4:2:2 - a very good compromise.
Resolution - Super sampled 1080P is fine by me!
Design - I for one appreciate a camera like this X70 you can actually hold steady and has a good array of controls - all these box cameras being designed kind of suck. Just my opinion.

So it's not raw, 4k, or some see in the dark dynamo - but it sure ticks a lot of boxes for an extremely fair price, and it comes with many things all the other large sensor (S16 and up) choices happily leave off - Like a pretty good audio set up, a good VF and screen, playback and review of clips, ND filters, etc etc. Everyone else can take the BMCCPC4k Ursa studio production thingies and deal with the headaches - I'll happily take a different kind of compromise with this Sony.
 
Good points!

I'm very interested and the 4k option makes it live longer for sure. I hope Sony wont charge to much and after a year or so drop the 4k price and just include it as a free firmware.
So far the limited sample footage looks a little bit unexciting but I know any camera can be swung to look very nice in the right hands and the X70 has all things going for it.
 
Anyone here have experience with the XAVC 50mb-s codec?

This cam does indeed look very intriguing as an all-in-one solution to event/doc style capture. Waiting for more specs (EVF, etc), real reviews, and a lot more footage. This might put me off the bmpcc branch. ???

cheers
JohnG
 
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