F3: SONY PMW F3 - "Direct Menu" where is it ?

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7ARTs

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Hello

I recently bought a pmw f3 camera and compared to pmw ex1 I can not activate the direct change of the shutter and other settings that appear on the screen by pressing the rear roller (next to the menu)

At Sony ex1 if I click on the roll I can change different states without going into the menu; This function is activated in: Others; Direct menu; Part / All / off

At sony f3 I searched the menu all over this possibility but I did not find how to activate it

If you know anything that could help me, I would be grateful to you

Thank you very much
 
Unfortunately, I can not even set the frame shutter in automatic mode. What I notice is this camera is very limited ... I tried to shoot outside with it in variable lighting conditions, and I did not feel how old it is now in 2017
 
7ARTs said:
Unfortunately, I can not even set the frame shutter in automatic mode. What I notice is this camera is very limited ... I tried to shoot outside with it in variable lighting conditions, and I did not feel how old it is now in 2017
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The camera is not at a fault. If you feel the F3 is "very limited" you may be in over your head because that camera offers fantastic performance, even by 2017 standards, and it does allow control over the shutter even in automatic mode. But the bigger issue is why would anyone buy an F3 and then want to run it on automatic anyway? If you wanted a consumer camera you should have bought a consumer camera. My recommendation is that you turn off all the automatic functions and learn take control of the settings manually. You will be happier operating the camera and your video will look much better in the long run.
 
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7ARTs said:
Unfortunately, I can not even set the frame shutter in automatic mode. What I notice is this camera is very limited ... I tried to shoot outside with it in variable lighting conditions, and I did not feel how old it is now in 2017
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I'll take it off your hands if it feels too old for you. How much would you like for it? - jason
 
When I shoot out in the sun with a manual lens set to f2 i need a variable sutter set in auto mode; Unfortunately I could not find where to set the camera in this way. Can you help me ?
 
we can help you: get a 0.6 ND filter and turn off all the auto modes.



7ARTs said:
When I shoot out in the sun with a manual lens set to f2 i need a variable sutter set in auto mode; Unfortunately I could not find where to set the camera in this way. Can you help me ?
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No no.. you guys are just being old fashioned ... these old cameras are hampering the "DPs" of the younger generation.. the problem is these cameras auto modes are not very good.. not that they shouldn't be there in the first place.. the OP needs to buy a C200 or the new Pana.. then he/she will be a fully fledged DP and can go forth into TV land and conquer..
 
The next generation of L-series lenses and the upgraded DPAF2 combined with a scalable 12K Sensor will change everything.
 
Normally I wouldn't suggest this, as normal ND filters are obviously the correct solution , but if that's too complex the OP would probably be well served getting a quality variable ND. It would certainly be better than any auto shutter - OMG!
 
Not wanting to talk about how much any auto-shutter can destroy any consistent look you may be trying to achieve when there is movement in the image...

The one thing that's gotten lost here is the extent to which the 'Direct menu' - combined with the joystick control - was an extremely easy way to make adjustments on the EX1! Those are two of the things I thought would have been nice to have carried over from the EX1 to the F3. Is it a fault in the camera? - No, of course not. Do I still use my F3 on a regular basis for clients who want 1080? - Absolutely! At this point would I consider doing any serious day exterior shooting without a good external EVF connected to the camera? - Of course not.

At this point the F3 has been around long enough that its features and capabilities are well known. Doug Jensen's guides are an excellent way to evaluate a camera BEFORE buying - as well as a wonderful way to improve your skills after you have it in your hands. Next time you buy a big ticket item, do your homework first...
 
here is a great reason not to use it:

"DONT FORGET to turn it off when you don’t want to use it, man it will mess you up when you start adjusting your LENS IRIS and nothing happens!"
 
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icarusfilm said:
here is a great reason to to use it:

"DONT FORGET to turn it off when you don’t want to use it, man it will mess you up when you start adjusting your LENS IRIS and nothing happens!"
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Yet another reason to keep your display settings on... It's pretty easy to see the 'AGC' or 'SHT: Auto' at the bottom of the screen if anything has been left in auto mode -- When we do multicam shoots we always take 15 seconds read through EVERYTHING on the screen display (over the headsets) before we start shooting - not just timecode - since it eliminates any unfortunate oversights.
 
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