FS7: Sony FS-7 Scene File Availability

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Jim Anderson

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Are F5/55 scene files usuable in the FS-7? I have tried loading them from an SD card with no success using the same file structure as loading 3D Luts.








Sony FS-7, F5, PMW-500 XDCAM, Canon C300 and Panasonic HD
 
Hey Jim -
I've moved F5 files over to the FS7 by copying them manually from one camera to the other. The file structure is very similar, so I just copied the relevant numbers...If the FS7 didn't have a menu that the F5 had, I just moved on. Got things very close.
 
So, Flaca, is it correct to presume that once you have adjusted the various scene parameters for any particular "look" that you're creating, and you save those setting to an SD card, then you can just select that scene file from the SD and it will load into the camera? And I presume you can have numerous scene file "looks" stored on the SD card?
 
Generally speaking, you're correct. This worked for me and got me very close to the F5 - which is the tight shot below.
Like any other attempt at matching cameras in the field, you'll have to do some final tweaking when you see both shots, but it seems to work for me. These aren't perfect and will still require a little bit in post - but they match.

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I wonder where one comes by a step by step approach to systematic "tweaking?" By that I mean, there are so many parameters, how does one know which ones do what or how they might work in combination with each other? Have you seen a "test bed" that gives one a more or less neutral or unbiased means to assess changes? Or, do you just start messing with the various settings?
 
I don't know about "systematic" but I wouldn't say I just go about "messing" with various, random settings, either.
I look at the shots involved, pick the one that I want to match to and then assess what's "wrong" or needs correction in the other(s) and then go to the appropriate menu item. Obviously, it's most often red or green - either too much/not enough of one or the other. On the FS7, it usually is the Color Temp BAL inside of the WHITE menu that does the trick, but R Gain and B Gain are often in play as well. These are the finer adjustments inside of the course Color Temp setting.
 
It just makes it easier when I'm shooting on a multi-cam set-up to have the 4 or 5 scene files that Abel Cine has posted since the release of the F55/F5. They are already loaded on my F5 and I have been able to match it with a C300 pretty quickly along with a few other tweaks. Just don't know why it is so difficult for the FS7 to see the .cube files in the same file structure when I try to load them via an SD card.
 
I hear ya jim, but a little time punching your numbers across from the F5 and you'll be very close - and then on your first couple of shoots you can make the final tweaks. obviously, the best solution would be for them to read the same files, but until then.....
 
Okay, I put in the AbelCine scene file settings and we found them to be both garish in terms of the saturation level and then also a bit "yellow" in the color balance. We adjusted both the Matrix Level and the Matrix Phase to address those two issues. Not sure if that was the best way to handle it though. Forgot to try Flaca's suggestions above:

"On the FS7, it usually is the Color Temp BAL inside of the WHITE menu that does the trick, but R Gain and B Gain are often in play as well. These are the finer adjustments inside of the course Color Temp setting."

So, after shooting more portraity kinds of tests, I'll see if what Flaca suggested is a better strategy for handling overall color, and most especially skin tones.
 
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