Sony F35: ND and Filter recommendation needed for shooting outdoors

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PIMP

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Hello group:

I have shot a lot of tests with my F35 and have been quiet satisfied by the imagery I have been getting. Unfortunately all my daylight stuff has not come out looking as good as I hope. I ve been using schenider NDS of different densities and yet no satisfactory footage. My stuff looks very videoish. I see a lot of footage from people on vimeo using the F35 outdoors in natural environments with no film lighting and their stuff looks amazing. Is there a polarizer or something I can add to the arsenal to give me some great looking stuff? Any help would be appreciated.
 
PIMP said:
Hello group:

I have shot a lot of tests with my F35 and have been quiet satisfied by the imagery I have been getting. Unfortunately all my daylight stuff has not come out looking as good as I hope. I ve been using schenider NDS of different densities and yet no satisfactory footage. My stuff looks very videoish. I see a lot of footage from people on vimeo using the F35 outdoors in natural environments with no film lighting and their stuff looks amazing. Is there a polarizer or something I can add to the arsenal to give me some great looking stuff? Any help would be appreciated.
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Can you specify your settings? Recording in what format and to what device? Schneider should be good enough in my opinion.
What do you feel is videoish about your image? Did you try to remove the ND and just close the iris? Even if your increase depth of field, you will be able to judge the look.
I find the F35 is crazy good in daylight, so if you are not getting a good image, something is not right.
 
Hello

I am shooting with on S LOG on 450 EI.

I never remove the ND and close the Iris.

I just saw some clips of a documentary macgregor shot in the dessert. There are pics of him with not even a reflector getting amazing footage. So i know its realistic to get good cinematic natural stuff without having to use artificial light.

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Can you post some screengrabs showing the 'video-ish' nature that you're seeing in the footage.

In my experience, shooting in SLOG/Sgamut and graded properly, a 'video' look should be almost hard to achieve.

Generally, the only thing iffy ND filters will do, is give you IR pollution (if they're not IR treated), and add a green cast to the image at higher densities. All of the latest 'full-spectrum' NDs (like the Formatt-Hitech Firecrest NDs) are completely colour neutral, and avoid any of these issues.
 
Grug said:
Can you post some screengrabs showing the 'video-ish' nature that you're seeing in the footage.

In my experience, shooting in SLOG/Sgamut and graded properly, a 'video' look should be almost hard to achieve.

Generally, the only thing iffy ND filters will do, is give you IR pollution (if they're not IR treated), and add a green cast to the image at higher densities. All of the latest 'full-spectrum' NDs (like the Formatt-Hitech Firecrest NDs) are completely colour neutral, and avoid any of these issues.
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Agree with Grug. I use FireCrest and they are great. But ND should not affect your image apart from IR pollution and maybe a little loss of sharpness.

Please post stills of your video footage, and better still a short 5s clip on a Dropbox with your 4444 so we can look at it.

The other thing that you have to know is whether you are shooting in CineEI mode or Custom. Are you updated to the latest camear Firmware?

If you are shooting in Custom mode (I ask because I know you bought the camera used) you may be shooting is Slog, Sgamut but maybe there is a function that was already activated related to sharpening or detail. I have found that these can destroy your image if not used carefully and give you a videoish look.
 
If the environmental light is not sufficient and EI 450 in underexposed

Then what shall we do ? Select the higher EI (640 800 1000) or just shoot in EI 450 and lift the lightness in the post production ?
 
Jack Yin said:
If the environmental light is not sufficient and EI 450 in underexposed

Then what shall we do ? Select the higher EI (640 800 1000) or just shoot in EI 450 and lift the lightness in the post production ?
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The obvious answer is add more light. There's no replacement for light. Bumping ISO will only make it noisier.

If you can't add light the only other good way is using a faster lens.
 
Sttratos said:
The obvious answer is add more light. There's no replacement for light. Bumping ISO will only make it noisier.

If you can't add light the only other good way is using a faster lens.
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Thanks. I got it.

:dankk2: That's why I love fast lens...
 
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