Sony F3 with pix 240 , small HD DP6 and Zacutto EVF

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Pier

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Prepping for a shoot next week . I am trying to have the F3 with the PIX240 on the A-B BNC , the DP6 on the Video HD-SDI out and the Zacutto EVF on the HDMI
I am not sure what I am doing wrong but can't figure how to have HDMI feed , I have a no signal on the Zac LCD
Only once I de-select "Dual-Link & Gamma Select :1.5G .... " on the Video set menu . Am I doing something wrong ?
Is there a step by step process somewhere or a tutorial online ? Any comments will be welcomed !
Cheers from Saigon
 
Actually, you can do it, as I do it all the time. Run your HDMI cable from the out of the PIX into your EVF.
 
Sure. Run one device through another. But the important point to make here is what ports can be live simultaneously.
 
DS10, I will try tomorrow, I feed the pix with the A connector, had no idea the pix could pass through an HDMI signal
 
I didn't know the PIX could loop out HDMI either , but if it can't , go the other way and loop to the small HD.
 
I run the Zacuto EVF off the PIX all the time. Worth remembering that all the outputs on the PIX240 are always live. So apart from a loop through, you also have SDI-HDMI & HDMI-SDI conversion.
 
Douglas Villalba said:
Even at 23.97?
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Yes... as long as you've set the PIX to record at 23.97.

The PIX includes good real time conversion for video scaling, frame rate and de-interlacing. It'll also remove 3:2 pulldown from the 59.94i as output from the F3. In other words, the PIX video outputs will correspond to whatever is set in the menu for the recorded video resolution and frame rate.

Much more than a simple loop-through :happy:
 
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I don't know the Samurai, is that just a loop-through?
Apart from allowing you to use a Zacuto V/F at 24p, It's also useful for monitoring whatever video format you're actually recording. You don't have to record the same format that the F3 is outputting, although some combinations could produce very undesirable effects!
 
You could, but I don't think you'd get what you want. 25P in camera is going to result in 25Psf on the F3 outputs, (ie. 50i with duplicated fields). If you record 50P on the PIX isn't that just going to duplicate the frames again and give you pairs of identical frames? I think this would look the same as 25P but with double the frame rate?

It's probably easier if I just copy the relevant paragraphs from the PIX manual:

PIX recorders feature powerful, hardware-based video scaling, frame rate conversion, and de-inter-lacing. This allows for converting the resolution and frame rate of video input to the recorded file and to the HDMI and SDI outputs in real-time. Video scaling and/or de-interlacing is active whenever the Setup Menu option Video File Resolution/Rate is set to something other than Same as Video Input. Any input signal can be converted to any resolution. When set to record progressive frames, the PIX recorders will convert incoming interlaced video to progressive frame video via its built-in, powerful, hardware-based de-interlacer. The PIX recorders will also convert progressive segmented frame (PsF) video to progressive video automatically if a progressive file (for instance 1080p30) is selected in Video File Resolution/Rate (If an interlaced file is selected, the PIX recorder will record PsF signal unaltered, but the file will be stamped as interlaced).

Frame rate conversion occurs whenever the frame rate of Video File Resolution/Rate differs from the frame rate of the input video signal. Frame rate conversion is achieved by appropriately duplicating or dropping frames. The PIX recorder will auto-sense between integer and non-integer framerates (for instance 30 frames vs. 29.97 frames). The PIX will not frame rate convert between integer and non-integer values. For example, if the incoming video signal is 1080i59.94, it can be converted to 1080p29.97 or 720p59.94 but not 1080p30 or 720p60. The Setup Menu option Video File Resolution/Rate contains entries with a combination of integer and non-integer frame rates (such as1080p30/29.97). When any of these options are selected, the PIX recorder will record in the indicated integer frame rate if the input video is an integer frame or record in the indicated non-integer framerate if the input video is a non-integer frame rate.


Not all frame rate conversions are visually desirable. When the OSD Item File Resolution/Rate is red, the conversion of the frame rate of the input video to the frame set by Video File Resolution/Rate will contain a finite amount of motion judder. For example, if the incoming video is 720p60 and Video File Resolution/Rate is set to 720p50, the cadence of dropped frames may be noticeable depending on the content. Conversions which are simply 1:2 or 2:1 (such as 1080i59.94 to 1080p29.97) introduce no motion judder. For these conversions, the OSD Item File Resolution/Rate stays white.

When the input video signal is 720p24 or 720p23.976, up-, down-, and cross-conversion is not available.

3:2 Pulldown Removal.
Many cameras which shoot with a shutter speed of 24/23.976 frames per second will output signal on the HDMI or SDI output at 60i/59.94i. To achieve this, the camera performs a “3:2 pulldown” process. The 3:2 pulldown process splits each frame into 2 fields and duplicates a field periodically. The PIX recorders are capable of removing 3:2 pulldown from a 60i/59.94i signal and converting it back to 24/23.976 progressive frames per second in real-time. The PIX 3:2 removal process actively views video fields looking for duplicates. When these duplicates are sensed, then this cadence is locked in and the appropriate extra fields are removed.
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The PIX is a GREAT recorder. I highly recommend it. I love mine. It also has the added bonus of xlr connections to record top notch audio!
 
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