Sony EX3 or NO ??

It certainly does say it there, but in interviews with the two directors that I saw on the making of Crank 2 they always said it was the A1 and HF10s.

IMDB isn't perfect either. They don't list the EX1 there, though the director acknowledges it was used. I think IMDB has more of a tendency to leave stuff out though rather than add stuff.

Then there was the 'making of' trailers (there are several) showed the A1 being used in the action shots. Also the wiki doesn't mention the EX1. It would be great if it is, but not well documented.
 
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I think that goes back to the point of the EX cams are great cameras - but not the only camera to use - unless of course that is the only camera (tool) available. It is a camera that I will uses again and hopefully now that I know more of it's advantages and limitations, I'll be able to use it to serve my story and needs even better.

At this stage - from what I have done and know so far - if I could ONLY have one camera (in this rough price range) it would be an EX1. Hopefully, I'd be able to push and get even more out of it.
 
The EX-1 was used for the "giant monster" fight scene in Crank 2.

http://photos.latimes.com/backlot/g...2008/6/6/Crank_High_Voltagejason_statham_head

They've used a Fisher Price Pixelvision PXL-2000 for scenes in major motion pictures too. What was the point of this argument again? :tongue:
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Xian Messerschmidt said:
The EX-1 was used for the "giant monster" fight scene in Crank 2.

http://photos.latimes.com/backlot/g...2008/6/6/Crank_High_Voltagejason_statham_head

They've used a Fisher Price Pixelvision PXL-2000 for scenes in major motion pictures too. What was the point of this argument again? :tongue:
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I think you summed it up pretty accurately. It doesn't matter which camera you use.

In fact, I would change my previous opinion... If my budget was $250,000. I would use $250,000 on it for the name actor(s) that I can get.
A bit of an extreme. And I'm probably alone on this as well.
 
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We're no longer on topic, but George D. hasn't responded to anything in a long time so I'm going to go a little farther along those lines.

In order of importance I'd list:

1. A great story.
2. Competent acting by all the actors.
3. A name actor or director if possible for marketing.
4. Clear sound.
5. Clear pictures.

So yeah, a great camera is down on the list. But as my sergeant used to say, sweat the details and you won't have many big problems.
 
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Duke M. said:
We're no longer on topic, but George D. hasn't responded to anything in a long time so I'm going to go a little farther along those lines.

In order of importance I'd list:

1. A great story.
2. Competent acting by all the actors.
3. A name actor or director if possible for marketing.
4. Clear sound.
5. Clear pictures.

So yeah, a great camera is down on the list. But as my sergeant used to say, sweat the details and you won't have many big problems.
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Agreed, story trumps all...

I think arguments can be made to move sound up on your list, but I'm in agreement.
 
Chad,

In a way I agree with you. In another way I think it should be two lists.

Fight like hell for:
1. A great story.
2. A name actor or director if possible for marketing.

But no matter what, protect against:
a) bad sound.
b) incompetent or actors just not suited to the part.
c) poorly lit, framed, or grainy images unless they are motivated.
 
Yes name actors are nice. I understand a name actor is good to ensure the movie gets watched, but competent actors make a movie good. There are plenty of films I dig with nobody I know in them.

We got Barry "Greg" Williams working on the film I'm involved with. It's called "FLEA". I haven't met him as I'm only the audio consultant, and post mixer. I'm also shooting some behind the scenes stuff. I made a very short production peek video I'm rendering now, but with no Barry. He's not the main character anyway. It's a 12 year old boy.
 
Its all about marketing for the distributor. Having someone with a reputation to draw in some sort of audience even before advertising helps so much.

If you know Pixar is the producer, you'll see it.

If you know Clint Eastwood is the director, you'll see it.

If you know your favorite actor is in it, etc.

I've seen several really good indie films where they couldn't get a distributor, and that really sucks.
 
George D. said:
While waiting for the Scarlet's release, we wanted to use the Sony EX3 in the meantime.

I just got our brand new Sony EX3 yesterday, and some of the accessories. This AM I've been setting it up.

It's a beautiful little camera, but I have to say I'm rather disappointed. With the camera and all the accessories I want with it, it has cost us a "lot" of money. I am SERIOUSLY thinking of returning it all.

I can't believe how much of this camera is "plastic". It's ALL plastic. Jeeeeeeeeez, what happened to aluminum? It does fit right in with the modern age when everything is going to plastic, but it doesn't fit in with what I would call "durability" and "long lastability". We put our equipment through a lot of stresses and environmental abuse, and I just don't see how this Sony can hold up to it. I have a feeling that if we ever dropped it, it would shatter into a million pieces. And, then the repairs would be financially out of control.

I've shot with pro film and still equipment all my life, and everything I've used has been made of metal and known for it's durability, such as Arri's and Nikons, even including our modern Nikon D2X DSLR which has a metal body.

I'll sleep on it for a few days and check the camera out further, but I am not hopeful. I think it might just be better to wait for the Scarlet, no matter how long it takes. The entire Scarlet package will cost more, that's true, but why waste money ahead of time. I'll also bet that this Sony EX3 does NOT hold it's resale value worth a damn.

Oh well, life goes on.
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George,
I wanted to let you know that as an EX1 user I must say this is by far the most durable camera I have ever used. I shoot outdoor videos for a couple of companies- mostly snowboarding/ ski, also climbing and mtn. biking. I have taken EX1 to some colder places on a continent (like AK- Denali range, Canadian Rockies in winter) and I have never experienced anything braking on the camera. On the contrary, plastics technology went through some amazing development- even cars and airplanes have structural parts manufactured from plastics.
The resale value of EX1 is also amazing- cameras with several hundreds of hours still are sold for about 5K!
I don't think Scarlet will ever see real action- almost 2 years of hype and zero delivery- I would not hold my breath.
 
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I think the Scarlet is a wet dream too, all hype, nearly two years worth, so where is it??
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The announcement last week was that there was a new bug they needed to overcome and there was an issue with the manufacturing partner. More delays.
 
The EX1 and Ex3 look like plastic cases but are actually made of metal and sprayed black. How do I know? my brother is a sony technician in the UK and currently has my EX1 in bits on the bench for a little repair, I was very surprised as it does look like plastic from the outside but is not sprayed on the inside. Looking at my EX3 I put two split rings on the strap brackets for a quick portabrace strap and the area where it has been rubbing is now shiny metal.
 
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tough as nails

tough as nails

I've been using the EX1 and EX3 for over 2 years now, we've shot in rain and dust and vibrating machinery platforms---never a hiccup. Always rock solid. The casings resist scratches and abrasions, can't be plastic. One of my EX1's was slammed into a piling by a crane operator that wasn't paying attention--the lens was snapped, the whole base was ripped off....but the shot was captured perfectly on the card when we did a quick Restore (since it hadn't exactly been powered off properly!). The client was so impressed with the camera's durability, he kept it to put on his shelf, unrepaired, and bought me a new EX1R. I love these cameras. I've spent 10x as much on big broadcast cameras in my career, they couldn't handle the conditions we put the EX's through simply because they are so small and easy to maneuver. Keep the camera and enjoy it's performance.
 
Ready for the big Screen - KERBEROS Premieres at AOF!

Ready for the big Screen - KERBEROS Premieres at AOF!

Finally...

After a bit more than 2 years and another million changes made since I got the news...

KERBEROS is ready for its Official World Premiere at Del Weston's Action On Film International Film Festival in Pasadena...

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DVXUser Stan Harrington in Kerberos

Pretty damn excited!

My first feature, BLOOD TIES, won Action Film Of The Year in 2007 at AOF, and Del and the fest have honored me with a coveted Saturday Night screening at 7:30 on July 24th...

Here's the KERBEROS listing...

Would genuinely love to meet some of you guys who are not too far out and show you what we pulled off on a micro budget and a stock EX1... and yes... there will be blood...

kely mcclung
http://kerberosbites.com/
 
EX1 Feature screenings...

EX1 Feature screenings...

Duke M. said:
Is stan's movie at 4pm the same day?
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Yes! We both worked on each other's movies; AOF scheduled them that way so people could try to catch them both.

CREED will screen at 4pm with in block with a short film - w Q&A a 2 hour block... then hopefully people have time to grab a quick bite and/or drink and then KERBEROS at 7:30pm... KERBEROS is a feature at 104 min - and the AOF will be hosting an after party so we can all hang out and catch up... :)

Will be fun to see them with a crowd!
 
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