Sony CLM V55 HDMI monitor

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paulcurtis

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I'm looking for a field monitor for shoulder mount work, i'd loved to have used the FS100 LCD but it's positioning seems an odd choice.

Sony have a V55 HDMI monitor, 800x600 5" and quite well priced. I wonder why i can find very little information/reviews on it. Has anyone here seen or played with one?

The 7" monitors seem a little large.

I'd rather have higher res than 800x600 for focus peaking but the above sony does include peaking and it overlays onto a B&W image which i like.

Any Opinions?

cheers
paul
 
paulcurtis said:
I'm looking for a field monitor for shoulder mount work, i'd loved to have used the FS100 LCD but it's positioning seems an odd choice.

Sony have a V55 HDMI monitor, 800x600 5" and quite well priced. I wonder why i can find very little information/reviews on it. Has anyone here seen or played with one?

The 7" monitors seem a little large.

I'd rather have higher res than 800x600 for focus peaking but the above sony does include peaking and it overlays onto a B&W image which i like.

Any Opinions?

cheers
paul
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I have this monitor.

PROS:
- HDMI-In only, thus making it very light weight
- Included monitor hood also acts as a screen protector when monitor not in use as it folds onto the screen.

CONS:
- Highly reflective screen
- Peaking is only outlined in red but requires your picture to be in black and whtie. Peaking only works with bright scenes, shadows will not show peaking
- The included shoe adapter which has a 90 degree bend is too weak and often bends due to the "weight" of the monitor.
- Does not use Sony L series battery
- Too small and too low resolution to see focus with naked eye

I would get the Manhattan LCD HD5 instead as it is 1280 x 768 resolution and has a peaking function that works without making your picture black and white and has a 170 degree viewing angle. The HD5 however is also heavier at 1.5 lbs vs <1lb for the CLM monitor.
 
Thanks for the feedback. Can you not use the FS100 focus peaking on the external monitor? I assumed that you can turn the FS100 overlay on and off on the HDMI output. If you left it on i would have thought you'd get all the FS100 focus peaking.

As for shadows and peaking isn't that just the way it works? It just outlines high contrast areas so you're never going to see shadows peaking with any monitor.

Interesting though, i might be able to get a Ikan V5600 for a good price. I've not seen much about that Manhatten so will look at that. The similar marshals are the same sort of resolution.

I would also wonder that from the distance you are viewing at whether you'd be able to tell resolution between 480p and 720p. If the peaking worked well then up to a certain point that would be more useful

Great feedback though, thanks
paul
 
paulcurtis said:
Thanks for the feedback. Can you not use the FS100 focus peaking on the external monitor? I assumed that you can turn the FS100 overlay on and off on the HDMI output. If you left it on i would have thought you'd get all the FS100 focus peaking.

As for shadows and peaking isn't that just the way it works? It just outlines high contrast areas so you're never going to see shadows peaking with any monitor.

Interesting though, i might be able to get a Ikan V5600 for a good price. I've not seen much about that Manhatten so will look at that. The similar marshals are the same sort of resolution.

I would also wonder that from the distance you are viewing at whether you'd be able to tell resolution between 480p and 720p. If the peaking worked well then up to a certain point that would be more useful

Great feedback though, thanks
paul
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The menus of the FS100 do transfer over to an external monitor (just ensure that "Markers" are turned off on the FS100) but exposure assist and focus assist such as peaking and zebras do not transfer.

I've also been debating on the resolution vs screen size. I recently rented the Ikan V8000W (8" LCD with 800 x 480 resolution) and recently ordered the Lilliput 7" 665GL-70NP/H/y which is 1024 x 600 resolution.

At 8" but at a low resolution the Ikan V8000W was hard to check focus with the naked eye at objects far away into the scene. This has led me to believe that more resolution would have helped in this instance. Hence I am going with a cheap alternative in the Lilliput that will give me more resolution and more size than my Sony CLMV55.

When it arrives I'll check it out and will let you know. The Lilliput I believe has no focus peaking as I will be using the FS100 for that instead. The second monitor is simply for me to get an artistic idea of how the shot looks.
 
Thanks for the info about the peaking not transferring. I didn't bother with the V5600 because it was fairly low brightness and also no peaking, despite a reasonable resolution. I have ordered a CLMV55, for the money it's worth a shot and i'll sell if it it doesn't work out. The other option is really the SmallHD which does look excellent but difficult to get hold of in the UK and also it's 3x the cost of the V55. When the monitor is a 1 or 2 feet away from your eye i do wonder whether you'd see the resolution difference.

If the peaking is decent - i.e they base the peaking on the full HDMI signal, not the downrezzed screen display then that would override the resolution. The screen is really for composition and focus, so sony are pretty well practiced at peaking and i would hope that knowledge is transferred into the firmware of this little monitor. When i get it i'll give it a shot (don't have the FS100 yet but plenty of other things to test with)

cheers
paul
 
ectobuilder said:
The menus of the FS100 do transfer over to an external monitor (just ensure that "Markers" are turned off on the FS100) but exposure assist and focus assist such as peaking and zebras do not transfer.
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This will be fixed in January via firmware update.
 
As to the resolution of external monitors: when choosing one, do not think that anything lower than 720p is useless for critical focusing! What is really important is:

- dpi (the smaller monitor, the better "perceived" resolution
- viewing distance
- aliasing-enhancement of sharp edges

Particularly the last point is worth stressing; while normally consider an evil thing, aliasing can actually enhance sharp edges and act similarly to peaking...
 
I wonder how the V55 would work with a loupe like the hoodman on it to make it into a viewfinder? will the loupe vigenette to much?
 
I have the V55 now, although FS100 arriving next week. I've plugged it into my NEX5N to see and so far it seems pretty nice. Peaking seems good, i quite like the black and white of the image overlaid with colour. The dial is a little flimsy but that's fine for me as it's not rental or anything. I will post with much more info when i can pair it with the FS100. So far it seems like a nice panel, very cheap for what it is, cost me £230.

cheers
Paul
 
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