Sony A7RV - October 26th
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https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-17952-z
As to the exposure settings, isn't RV using some sort of AI for it? Or am I thinking of something else?
PS. Whatever happened to Fujifilm/Panasonic organic sensor? They made a production announcement about a year ago but there's been very little since.
NorBro
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I don't follow any of it, but we'll all know from YouTube if anything that's industry-changing is released. A few people saying it is not much, especially with ulterior motives, but if 50-100-200 people are all saying this new camera, this new sensor has incredible dynamic range then something has changed. Right now no one really talks about DR, at least in video with the mirrorless' (because naturally there isn't much to report).
ahalpert
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No? Because the AF probably won't work or work well? Or will it?
ahalpert
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Looking at the Gerald Undone video, it doesn't seem like the IBIS improvement brings it in line with Panasonic performance. It seems like you can handhold at 200mm and get decent results on a static shot when using active IS. But when you're in motion, the behavior of the IBIS is inferior - rougher pivoting, more jumpy - than what you get from Panasonic. It's why I laugh when IBIS is described in "stops" of performance, because it tells you nothing about its behavior, for which there isn't a quantitative metric that I'm aware of.
New models are coming out fast and furiously. Fuji has an FT-5 announcement in a couple of days. So, keeping the tally - Sony has FX-30 and A7R5, Canon has R6MKII, OMD the new M5, Fuji has X-H2 and the aforementioned XT-5, Hasselbad has X2D.
Nikon and Panasonic have been fairly quiet. Panasonic has several camcorders out and Nikon some Z8 rumors.
Nikon and Panasonic have been fairly quiet. Panasonic has several camcorders out and Nikon some Z8 rumors.
R6MKII is announced with the YouTubers on working vacations in San Diego. It seems to be more of a stills camera but does have the external Raw recording capabilities for video. And better rolling shutter than A7IV, albeit with fewer pixels (24 vs 33)
And the image looks pretty nice.
And the image looks pretty nice.
Add Nikon ZF, available only via Nikon, USA - APS-C, 21 MPX, 4K, $960 (body only)
https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-p....html#tab-ProductDetail-ProductTabs-TechSpecs
And Pentax KF, which actually a DSLR. And a remake of a six year old K-70. No kidding.
https://www.imaging-resource.com/ne...dslr-a-rebranded-k-70-with-a-few-improvements
NorBro
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They are all the same cameras, like 10 of them over the last 6 months...it's unbelievable to witness on the "inside" (meaning like knowing cameras and stuff) and to see how a company is able to make mostly the same piece of equipment in slightly different ways thus influencing the entire product landscape.
The stills camera business is so unique, nothing like it in the world...it's entirely controlled by one country. I can't think of anything else like that.
The stills camera business is so unique, nothing like it in the world...it's entirely controlled by one country. I can't think of anything else like that.
When the Big Three controlled ~ 85% of the US auto market in the 1960s-70's, GM made essentially the same car under four different brand names (Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Buick, Cadillac). At least, the chassis was the same, the body was roughly the same, the engines varied. That allowed the GM dealer network to avoid the worst of price matching/competition.
Our first American car was 1975 Dodge Charger SE (we bought it in 1979), which was pretty much an exact copy of Chrysler Cordoba but without the "rich Corinthian leather" seats. (and with a de-rated engine)
ahalpert
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My goodness. I've been through a half dozen reviews from idiot youtubers. I'm trying to see a live demonstration of the AI AF in the a7rv (not because I'm interested in this camera but because I'm thinking about whether that feature would merit an upgrade to a more videocentric model when it comes around).
Not a single one of these twats with massive subscriber counts actually tested the capabilities of the new AI module. The AI AF feature is supposed to be able to identify a person by their skeletal pose, which should keep it from jumping to another person or object since it has some idea of what range of movement to expect from the human skeleton. This would be so easy to test. Try to track a person walking through a crowd. That would be tremendously useful. Or just track a person walking through trees and bushes. But every single reviewer shows the autofocus tracking a single person either in the foreground or running from background to foreground, or popping in and out of the frame. Same as always. No testing of obstructions and multiple people. These reviewers are complete idiots and shills.
Not a single one of these twats with massive subscriber counts actually tested the capabilities of the new AI module. The AI AF feature is supposed to be able to identify a person by their skeletal pose, which should keep it from jumping to another person or object since it has some idea of what range of movement to expect from the human skeleton. This would be so easy to test. Try to track a person walking through a crowd. That would be tremendously useful. Or just track a person walking through trees and bushes. But every single reviewer shows the autofocus tracking a single person either in the foreground or running from background to foreground, or popping in and out of the frame. Same as always. No testing of obstructions and multiple people. These reviewers are complete idiots and shills.
I saw a few clips where someone walked behind a tree and the camera went out of focus but then quickly returned.
Another clip had the photo/videographer walking back and forth in front of her model, with the AF jumping off the model's face once.
Another person claimed that, with a simple one subject setup, A1 was faster.
But no one specified what exact parameters were programmed into the camera for a given sequence. Generally, the comments were of the "it's a super cool bitchin; totally rad AF" type.
Another clip had the photo/videographer walking back and forth in front of her model, with the AF jumping off the model's face once.
Another person claimed that, with a simple one subject setup, A1 was faster.
But no one specified what exact parameters were programmed into the camera for a given sequence. Generally, the comments were of the "it's a super cool bitchin; totally rad AF" type.