Sony a6300 announced

I own and love the Sony A6000. I WILL own the Sony A6300. Shucks....so many great features that I've been looking for. Makes me super happy I bought the LA-EA4. One of the best kept secrets (that won't likely stay that way for long as more people own Sony cameras)....old Minolta glass. CRAZY CHEAP and fun to shoot with.

Sony is ON A TEAR!!! Congrats to us all. Cheers Peeps! :)
 
HHL said:
I own and love the Sony A6000. I WILL own the Sony A6300. Shucks....so many great features that I've been looking for. Makes me super happy I bought the LA-EA4. One of the best kept secrets (that won't likely stay that way for long as more people own Sony cameras)....old Minolta glass. CRAZY CHEAP and fun to shoot with.

Sony is ON A TEAR!!! Congrats to us all. Cheers Peeps! :)
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I don't know if the 6300 has the same new advanced system as the A7R2, but the bullet points on this camera indicate that you don't need the 1/3-of-a-stop light-absorbing translucent mirror in the LA-EA4 to focus at full speed anymore. You can now focus with the LA-EA1 or LA-EA3, both cheaper non-mirrored versions that don't absorb any light.
If it *IS* the same system as the A7R2 (and it sounds like it could be, because that's the only other E-mount that advertises this kind of AF capability), that means you can also adapt other DSLR lenses, like Canon and even Nikon with the new electronic adapters being rolled out, and get totally usable nearly native speeds out of it.

I personally use an LA-EA4 on my A7S because it is limited to only contrast-detect focus, which is why DSLR lenses focus slow and inaccurately with it. DSLR lenses were made to be used with PDAF, and the mirror in the LA-EA4 offers that functionality. On the A7S, I can live with losing that fraction of a stop. But on my A5100 (which is identical in function to the A6000), I want all the light I can get it. If the camera does it without the mirror, ditch that mirror and get an LA-EA1!!
 
I see this camera in everybody's bag. $1K for what it is.... It's a steal! I think my boy just got a a6000 in March :-D

I'm very curios if the new sensor and processor will have different/new color science. Sony is advancing fast in sensor development and the a7rII improved a lot followed by the a7sII. excited to see how this goes.
 
macgregor said:
Samuel, would you be so kind to try to get some sort of measurements on the rolling shutter from this clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rv9a1g5iu8 (00.38) please?
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I was kind enough to try, but I'm afraid it doesn't have what I need for my usual measurements: a line going from top to bottom, and both a left and a right pan, locked on a tripod.
From that test, it doesn't seem to be bad at all, but that's all I can say, sorry.

And now that I watched the video: the AF in 4K looks top notch, and specifically a lot better than on my RX100 IV (which has great AF with face detection and all in 1080p at up to 60 fps but goes into "let's save computing power for something else" AF mode at either 4K or 120fps).
 
Does anybody know what's the base ISO for slog2 and slog3 on this baby?

(if anyone gets hands on it, the one thing I would like to know the most is whether slog3 has all the DR it should, or is capped at "the same DR as slog2" like the a7S II)
 
I have two full frame FE mount cameras and one APS-C Nex that I sometimes use with a PK-NEX Lens Turbo FL reducer adapter so this A6300 looks very interesting. Here is the Lens Turbo with 50mm F1.4 Pentax that works out to 37mm F1.0 :
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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the speedbooster and other focal reducers use contrast AF instead of phase detect AF at the moment? Well, I don't know if anyone noticed but the A6300 has 169 contrast AF points against the A6000's 25...in theory even if the current speedbooster and other focal reducers DON'T support PDAF, there should be a significant performance in AF. Is this right or am I talking non sense?
 
rawfa said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the speedbooster and other focal reducers use contrast AF instead of phase detect AF at the moment? Well, I don't know if anyone noticed but the A6300 has 169 contrast AF points against the A6000's 25...in theory even if the current speedbooster and other focal reducers DON'T support PDAF, there should be a significant performance in AF. Is this right or am I talking non sense?
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I'd lean towards nonsense as the adapter doesn't have much to do with the AF system- all that is handled in the camera, so if the camera supports PDAF, it can communicate with the lens using that. The adapter just passes data. The only exception currently that I'm aware of is the Sony A-mount adapters like the LA-EA4, which includes a mirror with PDAF in the adapter so it can properly drive A-mount glass.

The biggest reason Canon lenses didn't focus quickly on the A7S, as I understand it, is that the A7S is completely contrast based and DSLR lenses are not designed to micro-hunt the way CDAF requires (incremental trial and error until pixels have enough contrast to each other to be considered "sharp"). It has nothing to do with the adapter, its because the lens' motor wasn't designed to work with this the way that the Sony lenses were. You can force a Canon DSLR to focus using contrast by having the live view on when focusing (since the PDAF points are on the mirror), and it acts just like the slow hunting that it does on the commlite and metabones adapters.

However, that doesn't mean your results with the A6300 won't be similar to what you are picturing. The A7R2 is the first E-mount that had a full time PDAF option to drive adapted lenses like A-mount without the mirrored adapters. Throw a Canon lens on there, and it will focus pretty fast as I understand, since it can speak to it and work in the way it was designed to. It sounds like the A6300 might also have that new hybrid focus system that can "speak phase detect", since they advertise that it can drive A-mount with the LA-EA1 and LA-EA3 (non mirrored versions, whereas other E-mount cameras they recommend the mirrored ones).

In a nutshell- AF with adapted Canon will probably be faster. But not for the reasons you surmised, I'd wager.
 
Actually, rethinking my previous answer. If the camera uses PDAF to drive adapted DSLR lenses at normal speeds, would the focal reducer part of the speedbooster mess up the phase detection calculation?
It is supposed to work by calculating the distance between the phase sensors and the subject, then telling the motor in the lens to jump to the precise location. But perhaps the focal reducer element creates an incorrect distance-to-subject reading? Or, if it doesn't, would it shift the focus so that it is incorrect even if it thinks it is correctly in focus? If so, it could be much worse than using contrast!
 
If you're going to use this camera with this awesome autofocus, don't you just want to use a native Sony/Zeiss E-mount lens?

I would personally still use a Metabones adapter with my Canon glass, but I at least would want one Sony lens as well for the AF.
 
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NorBro said:
If you're going to use this camera with this awesome autofocus, don't you just want to use a native Sony/Zeiss E-mount lens?

I would personally still use a Metabones adapter with my Canon glass, but I at least would want one Sony lens as well for the AF.
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Sure, but adapted lenses will also benefit it, much like the A7R2 did.
 
The AF couldn't possibly work the same way and as well with any adapter though, could it? (genuinely interested)

I know it would work, but would it work the same way? Fast?
 
I'd rather sell my glass and buy Sony. One of the things I like about it is the compact size. Using Canon lenses plus an adapter would take that away IMO.
 
Having a bunch of Canon and Nikon glass, I'm still going to get at least the Sony 18-105mm and 50mm G lenses to go with the a6300.
The prices are really great for both and they should be optimized for the AF and size, weight etc. really make sense with it.
 
I still use a first edition 5D2 and L lenses for photography and some videos but after seeing the specs and price point for this camera I'm seriously thinking of completely switching my kit to Sony.

I'm going to be shooting a documentary in a few months and 4K is a must for our deliverable. We're shooting b-roll mostly on a Dragon with Leica lenses and we were planning on buying two Sony FS7s for main a/b cameras and sell them after the shoot, but after seeing the A6300 specs and coupled with a Shogun and decent cage, it could make a decent and cheaper bcam.
 
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