Slowmo Crane shots

Looks GREAT!!!! Did you record another track of audio then show in post to match? Or did you do through the firestore.
 
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It was recorded to P2. I used the Frame rate tool in FCP to get the 60p, then slowed the audio down to the right speed.

It was shot at detail -4, vertical detail -4 so that might account for the soft look. Also The frame rate was at 180d, I should have bumped that down a bit.
 
I think the crane shots look great, which is cool because I'm about to buy a Kessler crane, and the footage is convincing me that this will be a good move.
One question: Which tripod are you using with it, and what is it's weight rating?
I have a Cartoni Focus and it's rated a little light for the Kessler 8 Ft., but the guy at Kessler thinks it will work. I'd hate to have to purchase another tripod.

By the way, i don't think the footage looks soft at all. It looks very crisp.
 
poweredbyjolt said:
It was recorded to P2. I used the Frame rate tool in FCP to get the 60p, then slowed the audio down to the right speed.

It was shot at detail -4, vertical detail -4 so that might account for the soft look. Also The frame rate was at 180d, I should have bumped that down a bit.
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i don't understand. frame rate tool? what's 180d? what frame rate did you record to p2?
 
waaaait... I watched it again, and although I'm still curious about my other questions, I think the reason i think it looks soft is you're shutter speed. What shutter speed did you use when shooting slow mo?
 
He used a 180d shutter, by switching to synco scan. As for the frame Rate thing, He should of just shot 60fps, and then also Shot similar track of audio and then slow it down and matched, or If I am right, could of shot 720p/60p, and then slowed down in post, the audio will be off synch buy then he can find his audio and slow it down to match. That is what someone told me :)
 
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Oh my gosh i feel a mutiny coming on :O)

Looking sweet >??poweredbyjolt??(name?)

Nice hop bar spins also !!

keep jibin the good jib see you at backyard jam perhaps ?
 
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im an idiot, still dont understand what 180d is.

Anyway, I just watch it AGAIN, and turned my speakers up and realized there was sound (really cool by the way). I thought you couldn't record sound at 60p?
 
A 180 degree shutter means that the shutter is open for half the framerate interval.

You can most certainly record audio at 60p. The only time that you don't get audio is when the framerate doesn't match the playback rate -- if you shoot 60 over 60, you will get audio. I think what happened here is that the video was recorded at 60 over 60, and then exported at 24fps, which accounts for the audio distortion.
 
wouldn't 120 be half the framerate interval? Anyway, lol i still don't know what the "d" stands for. Never seen that language for shutter speed (i dont get out much).

anyway didn't know that about 60p sound, cool!
 
180d = 180 degrees.

For a mechanical shutter as used in a film camera, that means a shutter disk where half the disk is missing (it looks like a half moon), so the frame of film gets exposed for just half the time that it is behind the lens.

In the HVX, the shutter is of course electronic and not mechanical, but we still use the film terminology.
 
ah, yes I know of degrees. However my undertsanding is that, as you said, since the hvx is electronic that lingo wouldn't be appropraite. Does the hvx even offer a 1/180th setting. Oh, or did he shoot 1/120th or 1/250th or whatever as is refering to that using it's mechanical equivilant in degrees?
 
The answer is, it depends. (c8

In FILM CAM mode, the HVX uses degrees.

In VIDEO mode, the HVX uses fractional seconds.

180d for 24fps FILM is the same as 1/48 for 24fps VIDEO.
 
Ok so I shot it in the 24p mode. Used the frame rate of 60, and the shutter speed of 180 syncro scan which is the same as 1/48.(which accounts for the blurring, I should have been at 1/500 or so) When you shoot in 24p (not 24pn) you record sound when you are in different framerates. But in post you have to use the frame rate tool to pull out the extra frames that are not needed to give you the true recorded clip. The sound is already there so i just slowed that down to the equal speed which is 40% of real time.

4mat- My name is Joe Simon, I won't be at backyard since I'm working on a documentary here in Austin. I wish I could go!

Seamus McFlannel - I'm using a Bogen 3236 tripod with a 501 head. It is rated way below the crane weight, but it has been working great!
 
ah, I've never used an HVX, and on my DVX it's only listed as 1/48th, 1/250th etc. gotcha now.

Anyway yeah, it took me a second, but i figured that it was a slow shutter. I'd love to see more footage with the 1/500, can you still get it?
 
I'e been doing some jib shots lately on a borrowed unit and I'm hooked. The Kessler looks like a good solution, what are your opinions of the Kessler having used it? Could you share your experience in set-up/tear down, ease of use, smoothness? I know you have to be careful of it getting shaky, did it seem pretty stable as a shooting platform? Were you using a head on the end or attching the camera directly to the jib plate?
Thanks
 
The Kessler crane has worked great. This is only the second time ive used the crane and the shots are really smooth. I had the camera attached directly to the jib and had it set for auto tilt mode. Set up for the crane takes about 5-10 min, you have to put a few bolts in to hold the two sections together, and one for the tilt lever. After that you mount it on the tripod and go. Real simple. The one I am using is the middle size which is 8 feet long, so far I've been very happy with it. Can't wait to use it on a real job!
 
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