Sick effect

Robbie Comeau

Robbie Comeau

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yo guys, i dont got the video off hand cuz its a myspace video, but i will try to explina the best. the shot is of a wakeboarder, and ten it ramps to him up close, and the camera does a 360 degree rotate around the wakeboarder, WHILE he is frozen, so its liek a still image, then when the camera is at its original state, it ramps back out, and the guy lands his trick, its unreal

thanks
 
TheComo said:
yo guys, i dont got the video off hand cuz its a myspace video, but i will try to explina the best. the shot is of a wakeboarder, and ten it ramps to him up close, and the camera does a 360 degree rotate around the wakeboarder, WHILE he is frozen, so its liek a still image, then when the camera is at its original state, it ramps back out, and the guy lands his trick, its unreal

thanks
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Can't you at least link to the MySpace user's video page?
 
myspace is blocked....adn ya itys full 360, its amazing.....its a still image, but the camera goes around him, like 3d
 
To me it looks like a studio setup. They probably had him in a studio, putting him in approximately the same position as in the original footage. Just keep playing that part back and you see his original body position blending into a slightly different position.
 
It's definately a studio setup. You can clearly see the change from the real footage to the studio footage. The hair, shirt, scale, etc are not the same from shot to shot. You can also see where the key/roto work left some bits of hair behind. Although, they did a good job with the reflections on the bottom of the board.
 
I disagree -- I'm pretty certain this is not a studio shot. I'd bet that this is what he did:

In the shot ON LOCATION, the guy goes upside down (almost) and SPINS in the air while doing the trick. Then, the director just rotoscoped him out and placed him against another (very motion blurred) shot of the camera panning 360 degrees. Together, you get this matrixy effect. You don't have to spin the camera at all if the object you're filming is spinning for you. Then all you have to do is match the background. This is done all the time on green screen footage where you want to give the illusion of more complex shots.

Well...that's how I'd do it anyway.

Cheers!
 
This is a CG model mixed with live footage. This took some time to pull this off (I'd say atleast 20 - 30 hours or more).
 
Zoidoid said:
I disagree -- I'm pretty certain this is not a studio shot. I'd bet that this is what he did:

In the shot ON LOCATION, the guy goes upside down (almost) and SPINS in the air while doing the trick. Then, the director just rotoscoped him out and placed him against another (very motion blurred) shot of the camera panning 360 degrees. Together, you get this matrixy effect. You don't have to spin the camera at all if the object you're filming is spinning for you. Then all you have to do is match the background. This is done all the time on green screen footage where you want to give the illusion of more complex shots.

Well...that's how I'd do it anyway.

Cheers!
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There is no way this is what they did. If you look at the guy's hair when the camera spins around him you can see it's always hanging down in accordance to gravity. If you look at the shot right before the cam move you don't see any hair handing down, and that's because when you jump and spin the laws of physics apply and cause the hair to move in accordance with the motion. If you do a frame by frame you can clearly see this in the changeover, and it's the most clear giveaway of the effect.

I don't think they did a full 3d model, but they could have taken photos of the guy in the pose, roto'd him out then projected him on a flat plane in 3d with some textures that move in accordance with the camera. If you look closely, he changes very little from frame to frame during the cam move.

If you look at the hair closely you can see the bad roto/key work where some white is left over...that clearly shows that it was done off location, no question about it.
 
If you look at his back as well, a slight curve with motion video, but on the pause flat back, almost squished as though he is laying on a bench holding the pose. Anyway it is a very cool effect. But lots of work for a 3 second shot.
 
i wakeboard a lot and have not been able to figure that effect out yet... looks like a still image rotated or something... not really sure.
 
oneinfiniteloop said:
There is no way this is what they did. If you look at the guy's hair when the camera spins around him you can see it's always hanging down in accordance to gravity. If you look at the shot right before the cam move you don't see any hair handing down, and that's because when you jump and spin the laws of physics apply and cause the hair to move in accordance with the motion. If you do a frame by frame you can clearly see this in the changeover, and it's the most clear giveaway of the effect.

I don't think they did a full 3d model, but they could have taken photos of the guy in the pose, roto'd him out then projected him on a flat plane in 3d with some textures that move in accordance with the camera. If you look closely, he changes very little from frame to frame during the cam move.

If you look at the hair closely you can see the bad roto/key work where some white is left over...that clearly shows that it was done off location, no question about it.
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I agree with most of this. The roto is pretty bad around the hair.

The effected image is lit evenly all of the around it, though his motion/move would never grant his full body access to that light based on the Sun's position.

I'm tempted to say it's partially shot in a different location using a trampoline for him to catch the air for the "move." Whether they used a DSLR or moved a DVX/HVX around him in a pose, it's hard to argue this "move" was done at the same time as the launch and landing.
 
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i think that when they were filming it, the director yelled "hold it!" when the guy was at his peak so he freezes. then the crew slowly rotates around him probably using a dolly. then once they're back to their original position (should be marked with chalk) the director yells "now go at the same speed!" and then he goes back down on the water. There's probably some rotoscoping work to be done.
 
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