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No, that's Hawk...:thumbsup:
Should male passenger dressed in women’s lingerie be allowed to fly?
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No, that's Hawk...:thumbsup:
Mattykins
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Ahh, how silly of me.
maranfilms
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http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthrea...dressed-in-women’s-lingerie-be-allowed-to-fly
The question should be, " should he be allowed to live?
, seriously, Im only kidding, but im willing to bet he wants the isle seat as opposed to the window, he he gets the looks and attention he's setting out to get. definetly a conversation starter, just not with me.
The question should be, " should he be allowed to live?
, seriously, Im only kidding, but im willing to bet he wants the isle seat as opposed to the window, he he gets the looks and attention he's setting out to get. definetly a conversation starter, just not with me.I just arrived in the US last month but last night I also had to explain to my son watching the gay parade in NY on TV after the same sex marriage law was passed that,
"not everything legal is moral" in this country.
That's very sad. It's prejudice and bigotry plain and simple. Once upon a time - not so long ago - mixed race marriages were considered immoral (and were illegal!). But as nations progress toward freedom and equality for all, prejudice diminishes gradually. I understand you arrived here in the U.S. recently, and not every country has progressed in human rights to the same degree. In Saudi Arabia they consider it immoral for a woman to wear makeup or drive a car (and it's illegal!). Thankfully we've moved past that, though in this country it was considered very vulgar and immoral for a woman to smoke (in the 1920's), even if a man could smoke no problem, so morals change - freedom beckons! Free and equal! Not every country is at the same stage of social development and freedom and equality - Canada has had gay marriages for a long time now, way ahead of the U.S.
Regardless, people crave equality and freedom, those are inalienable human rights. Yes, there will be prejudice, but it'll disappear eventually (even in the South - I see you are in Texas).
And somebody pointed out that the entertainment industry is filled with people of every sexuality, it's a very progressive place, and you'll come off very badly expressing anti-gay bigotry, same as if you express racist views. Not cool. We are all individuals and should be judged by the content of our characters and not our sexuality, race or ethnic background. I'm a straight male in a happy marriage, and I'd like my gay friends to also enjoy these basic human rights. It'll happen. Time is on the side of justice, and bigotry always loses... so it will be here!
"not everything legal is moral" in this country.
That's very sad. It's prejudice and bigotry plain and simple. Once upon a time - not so long ago - mixed race marriages were considered immoral (and were illegal!). But as nations progress toward freedom and equality for all, prejudice diminishes gradually. I understand you arrived here in the U.S. recently, and not every country has progressed in human rights to the same degree. In Saudi Arabia they consider it immoral for a woman to wear makeup or drive a car (and it's illegal!). Thankfully we've moved past that, though in this country it was considered very vulgar and immoral for a woman to smoke (in the 1920's), even if a man could smoke no problem, so morals change - freedom beckons! Free and equal! Not every country is at the same stage of social development and freedom and equality - Canada has had gay marriages for a long time now, way ahead of the U.S.
Regardless, people crave equality and freedom, those are inalienable human rights. Yes, there will be prejudice, but it'll disappear eventually (even in the South - I see you are in Texas
). And somebody pointed out that the entertainment industry is filled with people of every sexuality, it's a very progressive place, and you'll come off very badly expressing anti-gay bigotry, same as if you express racist views. Not cool. We are all individuals and should be judged by the content of our characters and not our sexuality, race or ethnic background. I'm a straight male in a happy marriage, and I'd like my gay friends to also enjoy these basic human rights. It'll happen. Time is on the side of justice, and bigotry always loses... so it will be here!
Doc Bernard
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OldCorpse, as much as I agree with your beliefs about the situation, I do want to point out that everyone has their own.
By disparaging another's beliefs and feelings, because of your own, is the same as what you are accusing him of. Please keep that in mind before making pointed comments about what a person feels or believes. You may not like it, but........he has a right to it.
By disparaging another's beliefs and feelings, because of your own, is the same as what you are accusing him of. Please keep that in mind before making pointed comments about what a person feels or believes. You may not like it, but........he has a right to it.
Jawa Ex Machina
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Yeah but, would you let teddybear sit next to your kids?
Postmaster
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Hmmm....
First of all , what´s so special about planes? How about a train or a bus or a elevator?
What if he walks on a packed sideway in NY like that? Would anyone care?
I saw worse things on Christopher Street Day. Why is that so different?
Cause you can walk away? Sure but you have already seen it.
So what´s the difference between seeing it on the street and seeing it in a plane?
If you don´t like it, don't look at it. If you have to look at it, cause he sits next to you - well that´s just bad luck.
Don´t be so self important, get over it.
You have no right, to only see things you like. I have to see a lot of things I don´t like, but I don´t waste my time to think about all that.
Should he be allowed to get on the plane, dressed like that?
Yes absolutely.
In a free country, even the most eccentric person, must be able to go on a plane in any costume he likes,
as long he is not violating any laws (like being totally naked and the like)
Should he go on the plane, dressed like that?
No he should not. He could have chosen a normal dress also.
What if he would have worn male underwear? Would that be different.
Can a private airline make up their own dresscode? Yes they can, as long as they don't violate the constitution/human rights.
Should a private airline make up their own dresscode? No, cause that could be a PR-disaster and backfire badly on the image > Streisand effect.
What if sits next to me? Great, that gonna be a interesting conversation.
What if he sits next to my kids? Great, the sooner they learn what the world is all about, the better.
Kids are not little idiots. They already know and realize more than you think.
There is no reason to always "protect" them from the real world.
Prepare them instead.
Moral is in the eye of the beholder. What you consider moral or appropriate may be quite insulting for others.
Imagine you fly in a country where women wear full body burqas and all the passengers are insulted by the jeans and t-shirt your wife wears.
Would you like to have your wive forced to wear ether a full body burqa, or not being allowed to get on the plane?
my ct2 - Frank
First of all , what´s so special about planes? How about a train or a bus or a elevator?
What if he walks on a packed sideway in NY like that? Would anyone care?
I saw worse things on Christopher Street Day. Why is that so different?
Cause you can walk away? Sure but you have already seen it.
So what´s the difference between seeing it on the street and seeing it in a plane?
If you don´t like it, don't look at it. If you have to look at it, cause he sits next to you - well that´s just bad luck.
Don´t be so self important, get over it.
You have no right, to only see things you like. I have to see a lot of things I don´t like, but I don´t waste my time to think about all that.
Should he be allowed to get on the plane, dressed like that?
Yes absolutely.
In a free country, even the most eccentric person, must be able to go on a plane in any costume he likes,
as long he is not violating any laws (like being totally naked and the like)
Should he go on the plane, dressed like that?
No he should not. He could have chosen a normal dress also.
What if he would have worn male underwear? Would that be different.
Can a private airline make up their own dresscode? Yes they can, as long as they don't violate the constitution/human rights.
Should a private airline make up their own dresscode? No, cause that could be a PR-disaster and backfire badly on the image > Streisand effect.
What if sits next to me? Great, that gonna be a interesting conversation.
What if he sits next to my kids? Great, the sooner they learn what the world is all about, the better.
Kids are not little idiots. They already know and realize more than you think.
There is no reason to always "protect" them from the real world.
Prepare them instead.
Moral is in the eye of the beholder. What you consider moral or appropriate may be quite insulting for others.
Imagine you fly in a country where women wear full body burqas and all the passengers are insulted by the jeans and t-shirt your wife wears.
Would you like to have your wive forced to wear ether a full body burqa, or not being allowed to get on the plane?
my ct2 - Frank
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Besides, Eddie Izzard is friggin awesome, and he's in women's clothing all the bleedin time, heck he kinda makes it cool...
simonpwood
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Yeah, but I get the feeling that Eddie Izzard wouldn't stoop to wearing lingerie in an airplane - its the crowded proximity that is the crux here. Likewise I wouldn't sit next to someone in an airplane in my boxer shorts. People dont want to be any more uncomfortable than they already are; and air travel is uncomfortable enough as it is.
BTW Postmaster - my wife (and I) always try to respect local customs when traveling. We always dress accordingly in the Middle East for instance - and that is no big deal.
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After becoming good friends with a couple of transgendered people, my attitudes transformed a lot. I would have no problem with this man-in-women's-clothes sitting next to me on a plane. In fact, I would welcome it if he were intelligent and decent and maybe even offered good conversation on a long flight! If someone isn't a decent, intelligent person, I'd rather they didn't sit next to me.
MattinSTL
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I'm baffled how this is even a trans gender thing... the attire is simply not in good taste for the circumstances.
Would nipple clamps and tassels or a full dominatrix outfit be too much?
It just tells everyone that he intends to make the situation about himself... which doesn't help the cause of acceptance.
Would nipple clamps and tassels or a full dominatrix outfit be too much?
It just tells everyone that he intends to make the situation about himself... which doesn't help the cause of acceptance.
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