Should I upgrade to Premiere CS6 before Adobe drops the boom on us?

This said, I'm still on Premiere CS5 and After Effects 5.5. Once I upgrade to SC6, I can't go back, and I will be stuck with it for a long time. So for those of you with experience in CS5 and CS6, am I losing out on stability and or anything else by going to SC6? Thank you.
 
Since this thread started, I've learned premiere, use it pretty much exclusively and have made thousands of dollars on projects.

Quit bellyaching, upgrade to whatever version you want, and get to work!

any current fcp 6 or 7 users that stumbled on this thread.....take my advice: switch to premiere if you feel you are reaching the end of the road. I wish I did it sooner.


edit: absolutely no loss of stability for me. Your workstation/situation may vary. Yes, I have the occasional crash....save early save often to be safe.
 
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Amadou said:
This said, I'm still on Premiere CS5 and After Effects 5.5. Once I upgrade to SC6, I can't go back, and I will be stuck with it for a long time. So for those of you with experience in CS5 and CS6, am I losing out on stability and or anything else by going to SC6? Thank you.
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CS 6 is a worthwhile upgrade.
 
I think it comes down to this: eventually you will have to upgrade (CC, Avid, etc.). Will you get enough use out of CS6 until that time to justify the CS6 upgrade cost? I'm glad I have CS6.
 
I've been using FCP 7 for years, have been in the "no way am I going on the cloud" camp and felt I had reached a dead end road. Bought a new Imac, installed FCP X and fought it for two days. After many, many crashes, turns out it is not P2 friendly and I still do day to day jobs on an HVX. Considered Avid for a short time but mainly wished I could go with Premiere without the "cloud" and with an upgrade path. I have no need for the "suite" and would use only Premiere, making the $50 price tag exorbitant. Just ran across a post earlier in this thread that reveals another option: If I commit to a year, I can get just Premiere with a cloud subscription for just $19.99 a month. That means it would take almost four years for the cloud fees to add up to the cost of buying Premiere CS6 retail. Nothing unreasonable about that and I'm about to start downloading the trial (just to be sure I can work with the software).
 
update it.

That's exactly what I did going from CS5 to CS6 then of course with no intention EVER IN A MILLION YEARS going to CC.

I have full production suites for PC, MAC, and some other Adobe web design stuff. All updated to the latest version before CC.

I will switch software before moving to CC simply out of principle. Besides I've gotten much more familiar with FCP X, Davinci Resolve, so really what's stopping me from completely moving over? Nothing.

buy bye Adobe. Hope it was worth it.
 
That's great, and when an update just happens to cause new issues for users I guess your clients can wait until Adobe fixes is in the next round of updates...
 
Jim Simon said:
It definitely has been for us users. Three feature updates in less than a year after release. That would have taken 4 or 5 years to pull off with the perpetual license model.
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Unless you are Apple. Much as I initially disliked FCP X, they have updated it even more than CC......
and never charged anything for the updates. And it works just fine on my 2009 Mac Pro so I didn't
have to buy a new computer either.
 
starcentral said:
update it.

That's exactly what I did going from CS5 to CS6 then of course with no intention EVER IN A MILLION YEARS going to CC.

I have full production suites for PC, MAC, and some other Adobe web design stuff. All updated to the latest version before CC.

I will switch software before moving to CC simply out of principle. Besides I've gotten much more familiar with FCP X, Davinci Resolve, so really what's stopping me from completely moving over? Nothing.

buy bye Adobe. Hope it was worth it.
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Agreed x10000. Don't forget about Motion either, it's actually a pretty neat piece of
software....cheap too. (Equal to one or two months of CC 'rental' from Adobe)
 
mainstreetprod said:
I've been using FCP 7 for years, have been in the "no way am I going on the cloud" camp and felt I had reached a dead end road. Bought a new Imac, installed FCP X and fought it for two days. After many, many crashes, turns out it is not P2 friendly and I still do day to day jobs on an HVX. Considered Avid for a short time but mainly wished I could go with Premiere without the "cloud" and with an upgrade path. I have no need for the "suite" and would use only Premiere, making the $50 price tag exorbitant. Just ran across a post earlier in this thread that reveals another option: If I commit to a year, I can get just Premiere with a cloud subscription for just $19.99 a month. That means it would take almost four years for the cloud fees to add up to the cost of buying Premiere CS6 retail. Nothing unreasonable about that and I'm about to start downloading the trial (just to be sure I can work with the software).
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Edit: this software is truly "Final Cut 8". Easy to work with, imports P2 as it should (though I will miss the ability to import a few clips from the card rather than the whole thing), but all in all a pleasure to use.
 
starcentral said:
That's great, and when an update just happens to cause new issues for users I guess your clients can wait until Adobe fixes is in the next round of updates...
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Same situation as any piece of software from any other vendor. There is always potential for updates to cause unforeseen problems which is why it's prudent to wait a while before updating and/or just follow the rule of thumb of not updating mid-project.
 
yes never upgrade in the middle of a project or projects, but the benefit Adobe will have you believe is that subscription based software will provide quicker fixes and more updates to the software that will in turn provide an overall positive end-user experience. So if updates are frequent or regular, but you do not update to them as they are released then there is no benefit to which they have claimed.
 
starcentral said:
So if updates are frequent or regular, but you do not update to them as they are released then there is no benefit to which they have claimed.
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Sure, if a user subscribes to CC but still only updates the software once every twelve months they are missing out on one of the benefits of CC but that's on the user, not Adobe. Let's say Adobe releases four feature updates a year for CC and even if I wait a month to see if any bugs pop up that's still four updates in a twelve month window vs one update every 12 months (which I would still wait to see if bugs popped).
 
As noted Premiere Pro CC is now at version 7.2.1

That is 4 updates already.

I also own Production Premium 6, and CC had moved well beyond it in features, speed, and stability.
 
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Frequent upgrades work as long as they are backward compatible to your project. That is, if I "finish" a project on version 7.1 and then come back to it with my currently updated 7.4 that my old 7.1 project will have all the data necessary to open and play nice in 7.4. This is a burden on development. Ask Microsoft about the pain of maintaining backward compatibility. I'm sure Adobe is taking care of that.

I'm not going to go to CC except in an interim where I positively, for client needs, have to until I go elsewhere. Avid is in trouble so that's out for now. What I REALLY like is Smoke. That seems to me to be the most modern and capable NLE out there but it will cost $4K to get started and I'd need a Mac. Currently I'm on a PC.

So it could happen that I may have to subscribe for some short time just to maintain continuity for my business while I sort all this out, but it would be strictly temporary.

Smoke has subscriptions too, but unlike Adobe when I bought CS5 and upgraded to CS5.5 then CS6, it's an option.
 
hscully said:
A subscription is an operational cost and may be a tax liability compared with the purchase of a perpetual license which can be treated as a capital cost.
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Operational expense is 100% tax deductible while capital purchases need to be depreciated over time. I know I'm in Canada and you are in NY state but I would think we have similar tax laws regarding business expenses.

And that's the only contribution I have with this subscription vs ownership modal argument haha!
 
hscully said:
Frequent upgrades work as long as they are backward compatible to your project. That is, if I "finish" a project on version 7.1 and then come back to it with my currently updated 7.4 that my old 7.1 project will have all the data necessary to open and play nice in 7.4. This is a burden on development. Ask Microsoft about the pain of maintaining backward compatibility. I'm sure Adobe is taking care of that.
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Newer version of software opening an older file shouldn't be an issue. Older version of software opening newer version of file usually is a no go. For example, you can open a PPro 6 project in PPro 7 but you can't open a PPro 7 project in PPro 6.
 
No CC for me. If I can somehow overcome new camera codec problems via plugins, transcoders, codec purchases etc....I'm sticking with CS6 until 4k forces me to buy a new NLE. Hopefully by then there will be another good option. I already have two copies of Vegas.

I just don't need the latest and greatest features. I just need to be able to work with the footage I shoot and all my plugins work. I still use my CS5 machine a lot and even my CS2 one sometimes.
 
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