Should I upgrade to Premiere CS6 before Adobe drops the boom on us?

Amadou

Amadou

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I currently use Premiere CS5. There is no way in the world I'm going to go along with the Adobe forced rental Policy for Premiere CC. I will therefore stick with the CS versions. However, it just occured to me that updading to Premiere CS6 is still possible with Adobe. This also means I can update to After Effects CS6 which has the advantage of being able to use the Cuda engine. I just don't know much about Premiere CS6 feedback. Has the CS6 version of Premiere been a thumbs up or a thumbs down? This update could be my last for a long time. Should I upgrade to CS6 or stick wit CS5?
 
I am updating simply because I want to have the best possible purchaseable version of Premiere and I also want Cuda on After Effects.
 
As much as I dislike Adobe for doing what they have with CC, I honestly feel that you are throwing money at a dead end solution by updating to CS6 with no further updates available.

I went ahead and updated to CC before the end of the year so I could get the discount they offered.
 
I agree. There's no use in updating to CS6 for features if you want to stick with Adobe. If you needed to update for functionality (i.e. can't do what you need to do in 5) then great, but if you're sticking with Adobe, CC is the new, and only path - like it or not.
 
I did not want to personally go through with paying for CC either, so i purchased CS6 creative suite for the immediate future.

I probably won't be able to fully articulate myself, but I'll give it a shot: My vote would be to go for the upgrade from 5 to 6 (I found a pretty good price from a dealer called Safe Harbor a few months ago, not sure what's best right now)

As a devotee of Final Cut, I feel the CS6 version has the same "feel" in terms of performance, keyboard mapping, layout, ect. it has been referred to as "Final Cut 8" with good reason. I still have a few bugs to work out, but my new year's resolution has been to learn it and move away from FCP. (primarily using version 6 of that) I'm using Premiere on a few projects. So far so good.

OP, let me know if you had any specific questions or features you want me to check out.

All I know is that I was never totally wowed by version CS5, but I noticed a significant quality increase with 6. again, I can't put it in words.
 
I said loudly I would not be paying them, but I am. The biggest worry for me was losing the update path. If you get yourself stuck on a platform, how long before your investment is gone. I invested in Serious Magic's virtual studios, but before I'd recouped the expense, Adobe bought them and all support and updates ceased. Worse still, we change computers quite frequently, so I cannot even re-install the Serious Magic software because the authorisation servers are switched off! How long will CS6 be good for? Looking back at CS2,3,4 and 5, it's about 3 years before something changes sufficiently for it to be a problem. I don't like paying Adobe, but Microsoft are on the same track, I fear.
 
I asked the very same question:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?307353-CS5-to-CS6-my-last-upgrade-advice&highlight=

and the response was YES.

Well I went ahead and bought CS6 for the hope of buying more time than CS5 would provide as I will not do the cloud. I am glad I did buy CS6. In my case I kept CS5 on my older NLE and put CS6 on the new one and I use both of them all the time.
A problem will unfortunately be as new camera codecs come there will be no support. Hopefully there will be transcoders available to help with that problem. In the meantime I have received Sony Vegas 12 free with a camera purchase and will continue planning on moving away from Adobe altogether once CS6 is no longer useful to me. I've been using Adobe since Premiere 5, 6, 1.5, 2.0, CS4, and After Effects 4, 6.5, 7, CS4.

I can't say I like CS6 tons better than CS5. There are a couple things I like less. One of the biggest improvements in my opinion is that in CS6 (and CS5.5) they went back to Audition for audio rather than the wretched Soundbooth. However I installed Audition 3.0 on my CS5 machine to overcome that problem anyway.
 
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I'm not a fan of the CC subscription model either, and I haven't switched to it yet, but I know it's inevitable. Eventually there will either be a feature that gets introduced that I must use on a project or a client will send me a project created in CC that can only work in CC. With that in mind, do you really want to spend money now while you wait for the inevitable? I upgraded to CS6 long before CC was announced so I'm not facing that dilemma today, but if I were I'd be more likely to just wait it out and get the most out of what I had already paid for.

BTW, I don't hate Adobe for going to subscription. I understand that they did it from a financial standpoint as it was less risky for cash flow to have a constant and continuos income instead of a feast and famine wave with each release cycle. If you add it all up it costs less than upgrading every 18 months, but I still just don't like it.
 
This is not a matter of cost but a matter of principle. I will not pay Adobe a monthly rent, period. That is totally out of line, and they know it. So I'm not going along with it and I would urge everybody to do what I did: STOP UPDATING PAST CS6 as an act of protest. The reason I refuse to pay a monthly rent is because they can change the rules anytime they want. The day they decide to increase the price or simply do whatever they want, you will have no choice but to go along with it. TO HELL WITH THEM. I will never upgrade to CC under these circumstances. I would rather switch software altogether. Who do they think we are? Sheep?

I have been a loyal Premiere user since Premiere 5.0. I did not upgrade unless I felt I had the need and the budget for it. Some upgades were skipped altogether because others complained about bugs. If I had rented the software I would have had to upgrade wether I liked it or not. Adobe..this new Policy is a rip-off and I protet against it.
 
I agree but I can't submit the group to any more of my rants on the subscription model ;

Right now I'm on Adobe CS6 but since I too won't be going for the subscription I'm looking at options. I think Avid Media Composer is a good choice at around $1000 I had the trial and spent what time I could with it along with tutorials on Lynda.com. Symphony is necessary to round it out to take the place of AE and that brings it up a bit, an additional $1300. I have had a few licenses for Sony Vegas in the past and liked working with it but right now it feels a little dinky especially on the color correction and compositing stuff, but I will revisit it.

If money were no object I would go with Smoke. It is expensive at $3400 and would also require that I switch over to mac, another expense I can currently ill afford. I've been watching tutorials on it on Lynda.com and it is by far the most modern suite. The node based compositiing looks like a dream after spending so much time learning the layers in AE.

That's the thing. It's not that I don't like Adobe, unfortunately I do, but I can't spend any more time getting better at using it, so I have to move on soon. Why prolong it? As someone else suggested, why invest your valuable time in improving your skills on a platform you plan to abandon?
 
I agree with Paul, in that CS6 had more stability for me, and worked better. Since it's now, what about a year old?, I think that it would be a good idea to buy it, and keep it around. For me, I put CS6 on my laptop, so that when I'm in the field I don't need to worry about connecting to the Internet or any of that other BS that Adobe has done to move things to the Cloud. I can then do any editing I want in the field, and then import it to CC when I get back. Or not. I have a copy of CS6 on my desktop, along with CC. So I have more flexibility depending on the job. Long term, buying into CS6 will give you the longest time frame before being forced to upgrade, unless, as mentioned, you need a codec for a camera you buy. If you think you are going to move to 4K this year on some new camera coming out at NAB, you might want to rethink this, for example. You didn't mention if you were on a Mac or Windows OS...

Frankly, I'm ok with the subscription model, but of course, being in Mali makes the notion of being in the Cloud a stretch. If you have constant internet access in an urban area, then maybe it's worth it. Love the music of Mali, very unfortunate about the issues you are facing there.
 
I agree but I can't submit the group to any more of my rants on the subscription model
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You were complaining about CC? Oh, I must have missed that thread. :grin::grin::grin:

I have to delve into Premiere CC, which we have on a computer at work. Threadjack: anyone care to weigh in on any big differences/upgrades between PP6 and CC? I know AE has a few new bells & whistles but it all seems pretty much the same to me at first glance.

Vital points being raised about being handed off projects created in newer versions. That's why we had to buy CC where I work. On the homefront, I'll stick it out with 6 and be plenty fine for a while.
 
Having transitions work like they did in FCP 7 was enough of a reason for me to go from CS6 to CC.

Like I said earlier, I dislike the CC monthly model, but I run a business, and it would be stupid of me to freeze my edit suite in time while my competitors move forward.
 
poo poo Adobe. I told them at a recent convention that I would not rent any Adobe Cloud BS. The buck must stop here and now because they are really taking their customers for idiots. If everybody started potesting against that Policy they woul have to give in. Perhapsone hould start a petition. If everybody did what Adobe does, our software would cost us more than the house rent. poo poo Adobe policy. Big brother can get lost. NO WAY IN THE WORLD I AM GOING ALONG WITH THIS BS.
 
Well for what it's worth, the upgrade cost from CS5 production premium to CS6 is the same as a years subscription to CC. Are you really going to use outdated software for the duration just to say you own it and spite Adobe?
 
Amadou said:
If I had rented the software I would have had to upgrade wether I liked it or not. Adobe..this new Policy is a rip-off and I protet against it.
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You are not forced to upgrade and Adobe will have at least the last 5 major versions of the software available to CC subscribers.


8string said:
Frankly, I'm ok with the subscription model, but of course, being in Mali makes the notion of being in the Cloud a stretch. If you have constant internet access in an urban area, then maybe it's worth it. Love the music of Mali, very unfortunate about the issues you are facing there.
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If you buy the annual subscription you only have to connect to the internet once every 99 days to verify the software.


Amadou said:
If everybody started potesting against that Policy they woul have to give in. Perhapsone hould start a petition.
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People are protesting and at least on petition was started (I think it got 35,000 signatures or something like that.



I was originally going to let my CC subscription lapse last summer (I started my test drive before Adobe killed the perpetual license option) but then I got a couple of jobs that required PPro CC so I extended my subscription. As a freelancer I just don't have it in me to turn down good paying work just because I'm not a huge fan of Adobe's subscription model.
 
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