Should I shoot my film with DVX100B?

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cloudburststudios

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I am working on a film right now and can't decide if I really want the DVX100B. I have been reading the comparisons on the DVX100B and XL2, but I can't decide what is a better camcorder for my film. I want the camcorder that will provide the most film look quality. I've read that the DVX100B gives a better film look, but I'm not really sure. If I'm not planning on Color Correcting my film, is the XL2 a better choice? Because most of the footage that I've seen from the DVX100B has been color corrected and the XL2 hasn't. I also think that the XL2 does better in low light conditions. Is that true? I know that these camcorders are great. I was just wondering which camcorder would provide me with the most film look quality and do good in low light. Is there a way to make the DVX100B shoot better in the low light, like changing the shutter speed and iris? Right now I'm think the XL2 is a better camcorder, but the DVX100B would be better for my budget. Let me now what you guys think. Do you think the DVX100B will get the job done?
 
I mean, does the DVX100B give a great film look without color correction? I've just never color corrected my films before. Can Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 do good color correcting?
 
The DVX100A can capture some great color. But things can always be made better. Mother Nature can use some help. Use your color correction to augment your lighting to help create mood or feel that defines you picture. I can't speak to Premiere because I use FCP, but I'm sure Premiere easily handles color correction. Any NLE should be able to handle CC.
 
Im sure a little trip to the search bar will give you all the answers you want and more, look through the "articles" there you will find some great stuff comparing the cam's.
 
i do all my CC in premier pro 1.5 achieving looks like this for comparison:
grabs1ls.jpg

daytonightcomparison6ga.jpg


its really up to you to say if thats the kind of CC you want. Thats just with premier pro, i havent used FCP or any of the other shananigans.
 
thanks for you input. I'm planning on getting the DVX100B because it is a lot better price than the XL2. I like the screen grabs that I've seen of the DVX. I like the night CC from Premiere Pro. What were the settings you used for the night CC shot? Are there any other screen grabs of CC for night out there? I'm trying to find a good CC for my night shots.
 
I also have a question about the 16:9 anamorphic lens (AG-LA7200G). I have heard that the lens makes it hard to focus. Is this true, or is it only hard to focus when you zoom in? I've also seen some footage from the DVX100B in 24fps and some of it looked like it flicked or kind of chugged when they pan, when other footage at the same frame rate is smooth and clean when they pan. Is it a problem with the editing software the people use, like they are editing at 29.97 instead of at 24fps?
 
man, im not exactly sure how to say what effect i used but ill try to break it down as simply as possible.

The grabs on the left are the originals just moved around for post clipping. The first step required adding magic bullets white diffusion, then tweaking it so its not as heavy. Then i added my first layer of CC where i removed some of the reds, changed the saturation, played a bit with the contrast and gave it sort of a washed out desert sand feel ( more yellow then the finished product for the daytime look) I then added another layer of CC where i threw in a tad more blue into the picture and then crushed the blacks.

When that was finished On the same timeline but a different track, i added the same track ontop, BAsically crushed the blacks as much as possible and completely CC'ed it so that the entire picture had a slight higher contrast and a blueer tint to it. I set the opacity to 23.4 % put the two together and got what you see in the first set of grabs.

For the nighttime grab i took the finished project from the originals and CC'ed one more time, just played alot of with gains and gammas, then did a touch more CC and ended up with a blue that i thought was appropriate and voila!

I wish i could show you the settings but it would take awhile doing "printscreen" then photoshopping, cause just scrolling through the CC for One CC procedure would take 3 screenshots, and i did 2 CC's on pretty much each line of video.
 
PaPa said:
man, im not exactly sure how to say what effect i used but ill try to break it down as simply as possible.

The grabs on the left are the originals just moved around for post clipping. The first step required adding magic bullets white diffusion, then tweaking it so its not as heavy. Then i added my first layer of CC where i removed some of the reds, changed the saturation, played a bit with the contrast and gave it sort of a washed out desert sand feel ( more yellow then the finished product for the daytime look) I then added another layer of CC where i threw in a tad more blue into the picture and then crushed the blacks.

When that was finished On the same timeline but a different track, i added the same track ontop, BAsically crushed the blacks as much as possible and completely CC'ed it so that the entire picture had a slight higher contrast and a blueer tint to it. I set the opacity to 23.4 % put the two together and got what you see in the first set of grabs.

For the nighttime grab i took the finished project from the originals and CC'ed one more time, just played alot of with gains and gammas, then did a touch more CC and ended up with a blue that i thought was appropriate and voila!

I wish i could show you the settings but it would take awhile doing "printscreen" then photoshopping, cause just scrolling through the CC for One CC procedure would take 3 screenshots, and i did 2 CC's on pretty much each line of video.
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A side question: I was wondering if you consider it easy to do 16:9 in post? From your footage it appears you just inserted black bars.... Then you are losing resolution by the way, if you do it this way no?

LLD
 
Yes. you loose resolution if you add black bars and THEN convert it to 16x9, i.e. stretching it later on to fit the frame of a 16x9 video. Im rendering it in 4x3 so the information i have in the visible area is the same except i just cut out some stuff. So quality of subject is the same im just cutting out some extra resolution at the top and bottom that i dont need anyways. So in a sense, yes, but do i care? no :) Learning how to up rez in photozoom pro would be advantageous me thinks.
 
" Learning how to up rez in photozoom pro would be advantageous me thinks."

sounds interesting ... I will look ino that for sure!
 
play around with the mids and the blacks. and adjust the highlights accordingly.
you always get something magical with magic bullet though... takes too long for me..

uh, new intels anyone?
 
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