Should I exchange my EX1 for a EX3?

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jujufactory

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The more I think about it the more I believe the EX3 was created to replace the EX1 altogether. I feel soon the EX3 will be the only reference among professionals. Just go to the Sony site and the only thing you see in the EX category is the EX3. Many video stores now display principally the EX3.

The fact is the EX1 is constructed like a HDV camera while the EX3 feels like a real high end HD CAM camera. You know the EX1 will be obsolete eventually while the EX3 is designed with such versatility it may still be around in 10 years.

The fact is even holding the EX1 is a drag. It is heavier than the Z1 and just as awkward while the EX3 is a half shoulder camera. The EX3 has a professional viewfinder while the EX1 still has that "prosumer" flip out system. Finally the lens option makes the EX3 a clear choice for any future upgrades.

You can pimp up the EX1 with hoods, plastic viewfinders and special shoulder mounts to play catch up but in the end you'll wonder why you didn't get the EX3 in the firat place.

The EX3 is really the all in one camera while the EX1 remains a high end prosumer camera. Is it worth it for me to sell the EX1 on e-Bay and get an EX3 on Globalmediapro (They sell it for 6000 euros and I can sell my EX1 for 4000. That's a 2000 euro difference). My feeling is 6 months from now the EX1 will not sell for even 3,500 euros.

What are your thoughts on this? Do you think I should switch now while I still can?
 
dude you seem pretty set already. You don't need us. get it..

or better yet...do some work with your Ex1 and make the money to buy the EX3
 
jujufactory said:
The more I think about it the more I believe the EX3 was created to replace the EX1 altogether. I feel soon the EX3 will be the only reference among professionals. Just go to the Sony site and the only thing you see in the EX category is the EX3. Many video stores now display principally the EX3.

The fact is the EX1 is constructed like a HDV camera while the EX3 feels like a real high end HD CAM camera. You know the EX1 will be obsolete eventually while the EX3 is designed with such versatility it may still be around in 10 years.

The fact is even holding the EX1 is a drag. It is heavier than the Z1 and just as awkward while the EX3 is a half shoulder camera. The EX3 has a professional viewfinder while the EX1 still has that "prosumer" flip out system. Finally the lens option makes the EX3 a clear choice for any future upgrades.

You can pimp up the EX1 with hoods, plastic viewfinders and special shoulder mounts to play catch up but in the end you'll wonder why you didn't get the EX3 in the firat place.

The EX3 is really the all in one camera while the EX1 remains a high end prosumer camera. Is it worth it for me to sell the EX1 on e-Bay and get an EX3 on Globalmediapro (They sell it for 6000 euros and I can sell my EX1 for 4000. That's a 2000 euro difference). My feeling is 6 months from now the EX1 will not sell for even 3,500 euros.

What are your thoughts on this? Do you think I should switch now while I still can?
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I've been too much impressed with all the footage I've seen so far. If I was not a RED customer and the Canon 5D MKII wouldn't be around, I think I'd submit to temptation and would buy one. But, have a look:

http://cinema5d.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=402#p4222

2ndly, it is listed for 5510.00, not 6000. Where's the beef? Price without VAT? (EDIT -- Never mind, I've already checked it out. It excludes all local taxes, VAT etc)
 
...while the EX3 is a half shoulder camera.
which is pretty awkward in itself and the tripod mount is so bad everyone is searching for plates to fix it.

The EX3 has a professional viewfinder
not by a long shot, all it has is a magnifyer on the same LCD as the EX1.

while the EX1 still has that "prosumer" flip out system.
same LCD, but you can't pack it away on a EX3 making the EX3 much bulkier to transport safely.

Finally the lens option makes the EX3 a clear choice for any future upgrades.
most people rwon't actually replace the EX3's lens. It is an expensive option

You can pimp up the EX1 with hoods, plastic viewfinders and special shoulder mounts to play catch up but in the end you'll wonder why you didn't get the EX3 in the firat place.
I havn't pimped it out at all and the only reason I would want a 3 is for a different lens for sports, but only if the income for buying it supported the investment which in general it won't.

The EX3 is really the all in one camera while the EX1 remains a high end prosumer camera.
Give me a break, thats utter garbage

You can make an EX1 bigger by tricking it out but you can never make an EX3 smaller.

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I agree with GuyB - I dont own the EX1 or 3 but have shot on the EX3. I think the EX1 is perfectly placed - its size is highly beneficial if you want to keep things light weight (particularly important if you need a quality back-up / b-camera to go with your HDCAM), whereas the EX3 is an awkward size - but fine if its your main camera. You get the same image quality from both cameras, so I think you should ask yourself this: 'Do I need a camera that has interchangeable lenses? And if I were to buy it, will I invest in such lenses in the next year? If your answers are positive then go for it, if not, then save your money and wait until you're ready to invest in a new camera and lens - at which time the EX3 will probably have been updated...
 
people do my nut in in this industry. You get an EX1, which is almost exactly the same as the EX3, but because they dont know what the hell there talking about they keep going on about the EX3.

"what cam you got" - well i got the EX1,
"not the EX3" - no the EX1 and 3 are almost identical and are the same thing.
"No they aint - you can take off the lens on the EX3", so your hiring lenses for this shoot,
"erm no" - by this point i just want to jizz in there stupid face and leave em to it. Next it'l be that scarlet everyone'll be raving about and the EX3 will become john merricks little brother.
 
If you are trying to convince yourself to get the EX-3, it sounds like you've already accomplished your mission! Either that or you're writing an advertisement for the camera or the place selling it.

The interchangeable lens option is, for many I think, a distraction. Are you really going to replace the lens, taking into consideration the price of the add on lenses?

One of the reasons I bought an SLR 25 years ago camera was to have an interchangeable lens system. For the longest time I had many, many Nikon lenses which I hauled around on my back. Why? Because the camera was made to switch lenses! The quality of my work was no better because I had nine lenses instead of only one. The same is true of video work. Having the ability to swap lenses will not make someone's work better.

If you really need to swap lenses then get it. Otherwise, it's essentially the same camera.
 
I own an EX3. The reason to get the EX3 is if you want/need to stick telephoto lenses on it. I don't think the form factor is enough to justify the price difference. But if you do wild life, action sports, EX3 is your girl.

Btw, EX3 and EX1 use the same lens.

My dos centavos.
 
Yes but the EX3 has that great viewfinder (which really makes it feel like a real movie camera) and you can brace it against your shoulder. The EX1 will destroy your wrist muscles or you back muscles if you wear one of these Indian bogus EX1 rigs. The EX1 also looks like a real professional camera on a professional set. Isn't that worth the extra 2000 Euros?
 
jujufactory said:
Yes but the EX3 has that great viewfinder (which really makes it feel like a real movie camera) and you can brace it against your shoulder. The EX1 will destroy your wrist muscles or you back muscles if you wear one of these Indian bogus EX1 rigs. The EX1 also looks like a real professional camera on a professional set. Isn't that worth the extra 2000 Euros?
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For me, it's not worth the extra 2k. Just think of the women and beer you could buy with 2k. A pimped out EX1 could still look pretty slick.
 
I say nay... why? I know what the differences are and I can't see them justifying the extra $$$

there are solutions out there that cost less right?

if you are worried about the look then I say you definitely should not be spending the extra cash
 
people would take you more seriously with an EX3.

Simply, it's bigger and more "pro" looking to clients. That's why i'm always renting the hpx500 for shooting
 
if you really, seriously have to worry so much about the look, then just get a RR matte box follow focus and a good AT4073a shotgun on it with a dead cat

the $2,000 will cover that and you'll have a better rig IMO...
 
The small size of the EX1 with such a great image in a small box is the whole reason I got it. If the EX1 cost more than the EX3, I'd still get the EX1. I need the small form and the crazy awesome footage for backpacking/kayaking. You're only looking at it from your perspective, there are other perspectives out there. I see this a lot around here when comparing cameras. Many folks simply do not 'get it' that the EX1 hits the high-def broadcasting 'specs' for high-definition channels at the least cost in the smallest form (well, there's probably some very expensive little pov cameras that are smaller). Obviously the EX3 is a fantastic camera for those needing the high-def specs and interchangeable lenses and a few other bells that comes with a little larger form camera, at still a freakin' incredible price point. I have spoken. Please, please be seated. Thank you. Each and every one of you. You know who you are.
 
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