SHORT: Short Promo Feedback please?

Disease8

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Hi this short promo video I have shot for my friends F1 event is nearly done. It is lacking a professional sheen. I feel the colors are not quite right it looks a bit "bleak". Something to do with the white balance I guess, I did try to get it so the screens were white but this has given everything a rather pale look. Also I have some titles to put in and not sure how to get them looking good I am using premiere and the default title text is really lame.Any pro advice to get this more polished, any feedback for future projects would be very much appreciated.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfcVCwfGots
 
IMHO: Way to long, 1:00 to 1:30 should be enough for a promo. Faster music, it's an F1 event right? Colors: Well, a lot of mixed lights and varying contrast in there, you can be glad miniDV days are over...
 
IMHO: Way to long, 1:00 to 1:30 should be enough for a promo. Faster music, it's an F1 event right? Colors: Well, a lot of mixed lights and varying contrast in there, you can be glad miniDV days are over...

Cool thanks for the reply. Yes its a little long! The client was happy with the length but I think you are right. Also the client chose the music and is happy with it. I thought it was quite upbeat and fast as music goes. I will look into if he thinks we should shorten it. I feel you are right.
 
Not bad, but I agree too long.
If you do shorten, consider cutting the panning that is smeared, the places where focus is iffy, and the hand held that is unstable.
 
Not bad, but I agree too long.
If you do shorten, consider cutting the panning that is smeared, the places where focus is iffy, and the hand held that is unstable.

Hi, cool ok too long!

The panning thats is smeared? Is that the first pan across the back wall of the venue?
Do you mean rolling shutter? How can I avoid the "smearing"?

Many thanks
 
Hi this short promo video I have shot for my friends F1 event is nearly done. It is lacking a professional sheen. I feel the colors are not quite right it looks a bit "bleak". Something to do with the white balance I guess, I did try to get it so the screens were white but this has given everything a rather pale look. Also I have some titles to put in and not sure how to get them looking good I am using premiere and the default title text is really lame.Any pro advice to get this more polished, any feedback for future projects would be very much appreciated.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfcVCwfGots

I'll agree with the others that unless there is 'something' else in the clips that weren't included... this is way too long.

In general, I think part of your problem is that the exposure look to be 'far under' what they should be for 'bright' colors. Even when balancing for the Tungsten, that only removes the 'yellowish' cast, but does not 'brighten' the scenes.

In the intro shot, there's a shot of signage, then 'we jump...' to a car passing the venue. Unfortunately there's a disconcerting 'jump' cut, and a 'rack focus' (perhaps not intentional...), on the name of the venue.

You do seem to have the car passing by the venue front, so, I'd cut the first car clip, have the car 'pass' the storefront, then 'freeze' a moment, then move to the doorway signage... on that topic, the usual rule of thumb for 'reading signage' that you want the audience to actually 'read'... is it should be visible for at least the time to read it through (at a reasonable rate...) 3 times. On the other hand, 'reading stuff'... knocks the wind out of the sails of many clips, and so I'd cut that in favor of a 'voice over' which tells the audience what's what...

I'd also lighten the yellow cast of the street lights, but not all that much...

In terms of the interior shots... lighting mentioned... some of the 'show the folks setting up the venue', there's sort of longish pans to the people, or watching the people do stuff... I think these could be tightened up, and just enough 'pan' to lead into the people doing the work.

On certain shots, it seems that you are 'standing back' a bit... I'd say 'get in there...'. For example you could have started with the door person checking id(or tickets.) with a close up of the credential, then moving back, zooming out, to show the person, and line behind entering the venue... in the shot with the disconnected hand serving up bread/toast ready for Marmite application, no doubt..., I would suggest starting with the person face, and the bread in hand, then following it to the serving platter... then follow the platter as it is carried into the guest area. Same for the Beers... have them picked up and served as you follow...

That's about all the time I had to look at the clip...
 
I'll agree with the others that unless there is 'something' else in the clips that weren't included... this is way too long.

In general, I think part of your problem is that the exposure look to be 'far under' what they should be for 'bright' colors. Even when balancing for the Tungsten, that only removes the 'yellowish' cast, but does not 'brighten' the scenes.

In the intro shot, there's a shot of signage, then 'we jump...' to a car passing the venue. Unfortunately there's a disconcerting 'jump' cut, and a 'rack focus' (perhaps not intentional...), on the name of the venue.

You do seem to have the car passing by the venue front, so, I'd cut the first car clip, have the car 'pass' the storefront, then 'freeze' a moment, then move to the doorway signage... on that topic, the usual rule of thumb for 'reading signage' that you want the audience to actually 'read'... is it should be visible for at least the time to read it through (at a reasonable rate...) 3 times. On the other hand, 'reading stuff'... knocks the wind out of the sails of many clips, and so I'd cut that in favor of a 'voice over' which tells the audience what's what...

I'd also lighten the yellow cast of the street lights, but not all that much...

In terms of the interior shots... lighting mentioned... some of the 'show the folks setting up the venue', there's sort of longish pans to the people, or watching the people do stuff... I think these could be tightened up, and just enough 'pan' to lead into the people doing the work.

On certain shots, It seems that you are 'standing back' a bit... I'd say 'get in there...'. For example you could have started with the door person checking id(or tickets.) with a close up of the credential, then moving back, zooming out, to show the person, and line behind entering the venue... in the shot with the disconnected hand serving up bread/toast ready for Marmite application, no doubt..., I would suggest starting with the person face, and the bread in hand, then following it to the serving platter... then follow the platter as it is carried into the guest area. Same for the Beers... have them picked up and served as you follow...

That's about all the time I had to look at the clip...

Dude thanks a lot for the reply. I liked the "jump cut" it was meant to feel like that and the focus pull was very intentional I liked it. The london taxi that passes by is meant to lead onto the other shot as if its the same taxi, but its not. But it gives the impression there were two cameras...etc... Thats what I was going for on that jump cut. But the focus pull I dont really see a problems with it?

I will look into what you are saying I think you have hit on something that has been troubling me about this edit, it seems to lack much cohesion and can be a little confusing as what exactly is happening. I think the lack ofchronological order might be something to do with it. Thanks for your long message its very helpful.

As for lighting I will go through what you have mentioned.

Many thanks.
 
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