Shooting 720/60p, without slomo

JWitsen

JWitsen

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Is there a way to shoot in 720/60p, and then not slomo it? Like for instance if I am shooting skateboarding, and want a clip slow motioned, but then change my mind after i shoot it - can i just take out every other frame or something along those lines?

Any help is appreciated.
 
Of course. First of all, 720/60p is not inherently slow motion, it's the "live" look. Watch the Super Bowl or American Idol or Dancing with the Stars or anything on ESPN HD, Fox HD, ABC HD, it's all 720/60p.

So shoot 720/60p and play it back at 720/60p and it's a fantastic looking-through-a-window "live" look.

If your main timeline is 60p, you can have the live look for everything, and then drop down to half speed for slow-mo stuff, having shot everything in 60p.

If your main timeline is 24p, then it's more problematic to convert 60p to 24p. It can be done, just not without some presence of motion artifacting.
 
Well I'm pretty sure, although now that I think of it, not too sure, that Final Cut Express does not offer a 60p timeline. If that is the case, then the only reason I would ever shoot 60p is to drop into a 30p timeline for smooth 50%speed motion. I think.

So i was wondering if there's a way to take every other frame and just delete them? So that a 60p shot is real time in a 30p timeline. If there is, could you at the very least supply me with a name, so that I can research the method?

Thankyou very much!
 
Well, on any NLE I've used (which does not include FCE), if you drop a 720/60p file onto a 720/30p timeline, it'll automatically play back in real speed, dropping frames as necessary. You may have to disable frame blending to avoid getting odd motion artifacts.
 
Barry, what's the procedure to convert 60p into 24p without going slow-mo in Premiere? I experimented with this a while back by creating a 24p timeline and inserting both native 24p footage and 60p footage and cross-dissolving between them, etc, in the same video [link]. In the end I couldn't tell the difference between which was 60p and which was 24p native, so I assumed the maths somehow work out to drop a certain number of frames gracefully.

Is it ever possible to shoot 60p but playback at 24p without going slow-mo or introducing significant motion stutters? As I said, I tried this (and asked about it at one point, too) and was under the impression it was not a problem.
 
Barry_Green, thankyou so much. Its a lot simpler than I thought then - I'll have to stop thinking so hard!
 
TigerFX said:
Barry, what's the procedure to convert 60p into 24p without going slow-mo in Premiere? I experimented with this a while back by creating a 24p timeline and inserting both native 24p footage and 60p footage and cross-dissolving between them, etc, in the same video [link]. In the end I couldn't tell the difference between which was 60p and which was 24p native, so I assumed the maths somehow work out to drop a certain number of frames gracefully.

Is it ever possible to shoot 60p but playback at 24p without going slow-mo or introducing significant motion stutters? As I said, I tried this (and asked about it at one point, too) and was under the impression it was not a problem.
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Try digging around in Jack's thread here:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=175852
 
Barry, just curious,
why HMC152 haven't got 24p mode?
And why HMC151 does have switchable 50Hz and 60Hz?
 
The AG-HMC150P is just the NTSC - area version, correct? Not some fake thing? (i never see it called a hmc150p ,just an hmc150. no P.)

i found one super affordable on craigslist, i don't want it to be a fake one though.
 
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