Shooting 60p for 30p or 24p editing?

MattRobertson

MattRobertson

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So I was thinking through this dilemma the other day. I'm gonna be going on a tour with a rap group and filming the concerts, and I was thinking of this solution as far as workflow. Shoot in all 60p, then just drop it in a 24p or 30p timeline (whatever I want to edit in) then use cinema tools for slow motion shots when I want them. Cause like I dont' know when i'm shooting which shots i'll want in slow mo, so to make alot more flexability in post, would this be a viabale solution? The other way of course would to film things I think i'll want slow mo's of in 60p and the rest in 24p or 30p, but when you're doing run and gun stuff that isn't as easy, and it just complicates things later in post when you have a ton of different formats to edit together. Ideas? I've shot 60p for 30p or 24p timelines and it looks fine before, but I havne't dont a true comparison clip by clip of something shot natively in 24p or 30p to that..
 
I want to know the same thing.
The problem is 60p footage looks looks basically like 60i when played at normal speed.
Slowing the speed down 2.5x isn't the problem, it's making the portion of the clips you want to keep at regular speed LOOK like 24p which I'm not certain how to pull off.
 
24p and 60p slowed on a 24p timeline looks quite well together IMO. It just makes your life a lot more difficult during filming because you have but mere seconds to decide which framerate you want to record in.

I was switching back and forth during the whole shoot. At least the cam remembers the shutter you used previously for each framerate....so you have to stay on top of ND/iris/gain. 24p - 1/48th and 60p - 1/1000th
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G48kqv6yA1g
 
Yes, shooting everything in 60p will work, and may in fact be the best approach with the HMC. In Premiere Pro CS4, you can "reinterpret" 60p to slower frame rates for outstanding slow motion, and you can output 60p to 23.976 fps (the footage you don't slow down) in Adobe Media Encoder -- and in all my tests that's worked perfectly -- creating that "film look" from 60p.

Furthermore, in the early tests I ran, I could enlarge the 720/60p to 1080 (in Premiere Pro CS4) with shockingly good results. Throw in a minor unsharp mask and it seemed nearly indistinguishable from actual 1080 footage.

If you're not using CS4 -- then I have no idea.

Good luck!
 
I have a similar report as AGMedia. I didn't do any quantifiable testing really (just my eyes), but I dropped 60p footage onto a 24p timeline (played back in real-time, just 'dropping' certain frames) and even cross-dissolving it with native 24p footage it looked fine to me - it all had a perfect 'film look'. This went out the Adobe Media Encoder and played back on a WDTV external media player.
 
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