Shooting 2 camera promo on mini dv with hvx & sony hdv

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wolfwill23

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I'm shooting a two camera promo video and using a Sony HDV and an hvx. Both will set to mini-dv, 4:3. How obvious do you think the difference will be between the two cameras? Is there anything I should know before doing this? Also, kind of a silly question, but I just got my hvx and and I've looked at the manual and did not see how to set up the camera for simple, 4:3, mini dv. Anyone know how to do this?

I know it's a basic question so thanks for your time.

(Also, for those of you that posted about my noise problem with the documentary in the casino, I now have the scene setting on F5 (lowered the master ped a bit)) and most of the noise is gone. I'm also doing less observational shooting and more sit-down interviews that are lit. Thanks everybody.)
 
I have never shot MiniDV with my HVX200, but my understanding is that there are issues with 480i. I would do some testing before you shoot to make sure the quality is what you expect.
 
There have been reports of pronounced stair-stepping. The HVX is supposed to be inferior to the DVX in 480i.
 
You couldn't pick two worse cameras to try to match up. The HVX200 is a progressive camera that works best at shooting film-like images. It has true 24p motion, film-like gamma curves, film-like colors, very mild compression, a more noisy image, and quite a bit of lattitude. The Sony FX1 and Z1 (I assume that's what you are talking about) are interlaced cameras designed to capture much more video-ish images. They have very video-ish colors and gamma, they have a fake 24 frame mode that doesn't get the motion right, they have pretty low lattitude, harsh HDV compression, and great low light performance with a very clean image.
 
Yeah, that went pretty bad. The HVX looked like ass. The HDV, very crisp, clean, video-like image. The HVX, not right for this kind of presentation.

Live and learn.
 
wolfwill23 said:
Yeah, that went pretty bad. The HVX looked like ass. The HDV, very crisp, clean, video-like image. The HVX, not right for this kind of presentation.

Live and learn.
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Use this rule of thumb. If you're shooting something that you'd normally be using a TV camera for then the Z1 is going to give you a nicer image. If you're shooting somthing you'd rather be using a film camera more than the HVX200 is going to blow it the Z1 out of the water.
 
THoff said:
There have been reports of pronounced stair-stepping. The HVX is supposed to be inferior to the DVX in 480i.
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how much inferior? the DVX does a better job in 480i 24p, 30p, or 60? i shot with an HVX using 24p and it didnt seem that much different than a DVX shooting 24p on DV.
 
wolfwill23 said:
Yeah, that went pretty bad. The HVX looked like ass. The HDV, very crisp, clean, video-like image. The HVX, not right for this kind of presentation.

Live and learn.
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That is a pretty vague blanket statement. What settings did you have the HVX on?
What is it they say about a cheap tool in the hands of a pro, as oppossed to the right tools in the hands of someone that doesn't know what they are doing?
 
THoff said:
There have been reports of pronounced stair-stepping. The HVX is supposed to be inferior to the DVX in 480i.
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Disagree...My HVX blows my DVX out the box in DV widescreen 24pa. I've had issues with my DVX when shooting 60i but I hardly shoot that anymore.
 
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