Settings For Better ( Outdoor ) Greens

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NewBee

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I have been experimenting with my new camera trying to come up with a better ( in-camera ) green for outdoor scenery. I cant get my greens to "pop" a little bit and green plants seem to come out a bit darker than I would like ... I am setting my WB manually ( zooming in on a piece of styrofoam ).

Settings I am trying are Mainly:

30p
Letterbox
Cine-Matrix
Chroma anywhere from 0-+3

The two times I have tried this, the amount of available sunlight has been somewhat irratic ( variable high level clouds ).

On the DVX dvd, I believe Barry states that Cine-matrix will make greens pop a bit which is why I have been using Cine-Matrix.

Any Thoughts or ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks ;D
 
Re: Settings For Better ( Outdoor ) Greens

I say turn off Cine-Matrix I have noticed that I addes a gray cast to the whole picture (blacks look grey). Oh and adds Noise to the blacks as well.

Try gamma Norm and Matrix enriched if you want colors to pop. But will not do anything for the green or blue, Just reds, yellows so maybe not a good choice.

I find Gamma Norm and Matrix Norm to be the best color without over doing it.  ;D

For green Try an 85b orange filter. Should make the colors a little warmer, more natural.

In color correction it looks like you would need to reduce the purple light to boost the green
 
Re: Settings For Better ( Outdoor ) Greens

I don't get how an 85b filter would make greens pop. Are you talking about using it to keep the camera balanced at 32k during daylight? If so, that will not change colors at all. If you use it with the 56k setting you will get very orange with normal looking if not slightly dark greens. it's not just warm, it would be a true orange. Maybe a slightly less warming filter might work well, but the 85b is very strong. I would personally shoot normal and then slightly boost greens in post if needed. But I really don't know how much you want your greens to be boosted. Could you post an example?
 
Re: Settings For Better ( Outdoor ) Greens

not everyone is a big fan of them but i really like the warmcards.

basically they are laminated cards that when you white balance to them make your picture warmer.

they come in different intensities of a blueish color and a light green for flourescent.

if you can find something that is a fairly light blue you could try that.

i think barry posted something about which chroma settings and such to move your colors towards that end of the color spectrum.

matthew
 
Re: Settings For Better ( Outdoor ) Greens

Dropping the chroma phase slightly will shift toward green, but I'd probably just boost the greens a little in post.

matthewd5- I'm also a fan of the warmcards. It's a simple and easily repeatable way to warm your image slightly.
 
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