Servo noise w/ onboard mic normal?

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Your audio setup for ambient seems the way to go. I also don't want to spend another $200 on an unknown mic which may also pick up noise if mounted on the factory supplied bracket. BTW, I can't find any specs whatsoever on the MC-70. It is $199 at AVAlive.

I have a NTG-3/SM3 mount which is way too big for the camera IMO but at least I can get some clean ambient and have a backup track from the on camera mic channel.

I may try a Rode Stereo Video Mic later. They seem to be a good mic for ambient sound reinforcement. I neet to find a mini to split XLR right angle adapter first.

FYI, my primary audio always goes from the wireless to a 24bit digital recorder.
 
Hi, Jeff. I got a question for you if you can spare a minute. I'm seriously considering the hmc-150. I'm borrowing one now from the shop that I'll buy it from. I got it to go through the workflow and see how the images are. One issue I'm running into is that the mts files on the Vegas timeline are very slow. Something like .5 fps, without any effects. Can you tell me what you do for your workflow? I've heard from others that they convert to AVI then load THOSE into the timeline. Thoughts? Thanks!
 
Me, I don't find the HMC150 zoom to be loud. I compared it with my DVX100P and the DVX is way louder in slow zoom or fast servo zoom. Probably 2 times louder, maybe more.

I never had problems in real world shooting with my DVX. So, I don't see it as an issue with the HMC.

I always use a Rode NTG-2 and most of the time a wireless transmitter.

By the way, I just received my HMC150 this monday and really like it. It's similar to my DVX with the same weight. Much lighter than the HVX200a.
 
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toddgeer said:
Hi, Jeff. I got a question for you if you can spare a minute. I'm seriously considering the hmc-150. I'm borrowing one now from the shop that I'll buy it from. I got it to go through the workflow and see how the images are. One issue I'm running into is that the mts files on the Vegas timeline are very slow. Something like .5 fps, without any effects. Can you tell me what you do for your workflow? I've heard from others that they convert to AVI then load THOSE into the timeline. Thoughts? Thanks!
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I put the HMC-150 files directly on the timeline and work. Building and edting the project is quick and no problems. When I drop a long file on the timeline it takes maybe 5 to 10 seconds to build peaks.

Estimated render times (I can measure later) - Rendering on a Q6600 machine gets about 15 FPS depending on what settings are used. A Q9650 machine gets 20 FPS or better.

0.5 FPS for a render means you have some type of problem or a extremely slow computer.
 
@ mcsmooth:

I don't see any way a mic 2 inches away from this same noise could possibly not pick it up when boosted to that level
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Inverse square law (double the distance; sound pressure is one quarter—this is all about S/N ratio, remember), plus a quieter shock mount. My shotgun, on a separate, higher shock mount, cannot pick up the auto zoom at desirable recording levels (about 1/2 way on the gain pot.).

hth, kl
 
The bottom line on the servo noise issue is that it is there on all HMC-150s. If I had to comment on the failings of this camera, the servo zoom noise would be the biggie. Yes, doing a slow zooms works perfectly, but fast zooms can generate unacceptable servo noise pickup in a quiet setting. The odd sounds that the auto focus makes from time to time are very real as well. Took some time to get used to it, but overall the noise from the auto focus is not an issue. Panasonic does need to address the servo zoom noise in my opinion. My question of the day is how does the 170 servo zoom noise compare. The camera's body constructions, lens configurations are very similar if not identical. Comments welcome. Outside of the servo noise, this camera is unequalled at it's price point. A true break through in HD video acquisition in my opinion. Happy shooting!
 
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