Seriously! Is The Dvx Dying?

renegadewill

renegadewill

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I really hope that it is not. I just bought mine under a year ago and am still blown away by it. Why are people going with the hv20 when it is designed for someone's dad to videotape their soccer games and watch it on his new hd tv. I have read forums of people going hv20 over the dvx, it blows my mind!

Besides money, why would anyone do this?
 
Money is a big factor, an HV20 is 1/4 the cost of a DVX. The other big factor is that the HV20 is HD, and the DVX isn't. Other than those two things, the DVX blows the HV20 away in every possible manner. But, then again, it should -- it does cost 4x as much.
 
there is also the hmc150 coming out, and if the cost is comparable to where the dvx is at now... i just bought my dvx 4 months ago. i hope it holds out for another few years until i can save up for a more true HD camera. personally i despise hdv, but everybody has their own tastes. maybe they'll have a hvx200A or B by the time i have the money for it.
 
I'm going to be holdin' onto my 100a for awhile yet.
1. I won't be able to afford a new camera for awhile. 2. That HMC150 looks pretty bad ass and I wouldn't mind gettin' one of those after it's been out for awhile and the price has come down some.
 
i'm on my 2nd doc with the DVx, i know i have one more in me before going to HD.... the camera paid for itself already so many times i love... it... next product will no doubt be another panny..waiting for a hvx 2nd gen before i upgrade
 
As long as the clients keep on requesting 4:3 SD video my DVX will be very much alive...and I guess that thing wiil be going on for at least the next couple of years...I hope I m not being overoptimistic!!!
On the other hand...you just cant fight with technology...!
Sooner or later you ll have to go HD simply because it ll be the only way...but that time didnt arive yet...!
Excuse my English DVX users....
 
Consumer HD hit the store shelves five years ago. It must irritate HD-only fanatics to find the same standard-def DVX going fairly strong FIVE YEARS after HDV first landed.

As long as cable networks broadcast standard-def 4:3, the DVX will have years of life left in it. But I do think the HMC150 will probably replace the DVX in Panasonic's lineup -- but it'll probably stay on sale as long as people keep buying it.
 
and when you look at it, and your doing indie stuff on a budget, it's all about content. a dvx can look REALLY good. i'v shot dvx content that looked a lot better than some hd stuff that has been shot, because each one is its own discipline and the latitude for the dvx lets you work in poorer conditions. i think the dvx's staying power is that it's so versatile and if the content is there, and you shot in a way that you produce an image that's the best the dvx has to offer, it will last.
 
Hi guys,

I really would like to hear your comments on a review you can read on camcorderinfo about the new HMC150. Especially the technical aspects of the HD and codec performance from it. The review is here.
 
As long as 4:3 SD televisions are made and sold, the DVX should be able to hold onto some life.

The transition to true HD, including a 16:9 aspect ratio is slowly happening. Key word, slowly.

But don't kid yourself. The transition is happening and will be completed eventually.

What we're seeing now is similar to the days of Super 8 movie film for home use. Has anyone looked in stores to see if you can still buy one besides Ebay? How about film for a Super 8 or spare parts to repair the camera? If found...how much time and cost?

The answer to that is clear and a good indication for those who need to carefully plan what kind of camera they are going to buy in the 3 to 5 year future.

The DVX hits the price point for many. Advancing technology and competition have already begun to write it's obituary.

It's just a matter of time...but not quite yet.
 
If the price is right on the HMC150 and does well in low light I wouldn't be surpised if alot of DVX users make the upgrade and slowly phase it out.
 
All cameras become obsolete eventually. The DVX just happened to have be in the limelight longer than usual because the other companies are dumb and don't realize the value of an affordable 24p camera. But now the secret is out and you got cameras coming out every year or so that are comparable in features. So don't worry about your DVX dying, worry about when your next camera is going to be out of style.
 
This thread is a shame. Comparing the DVX to the HV20 is a joke. The HV20 is a consumer cam for people that have been stupid enough to go HD yet (stupid, because there will be a real HD- format coming up in the future but HDV or an uprezzed 1080i as the HV20 produces it, is not worth upgrading to HD). If you want to do cinematographic work the DVX is way better than the HV20. Quality has nothing to do with the amount of pixels...that's why there have been so many Oscar nominied DVX movies but there will never be a HV20 nominied movie...
 
maniero said:
This thread is a shame. Comparing the DVX to the HV20 is a joke. The HV20 is a consumer cam for people that have been stupid enough to go HD yet (stupid, because there will be a real HD- format coming up in the future but HDV or an uprezzed 1080i as the HV20 produces it, is not worth upgrading to HD). If you want to do cinematographic work the DVX is way better than the HV20. Quality has nothing to do with the amount of pixels...that's why there have been so many Oscar nominied DVX movies but there will never be a HV20 nominied movie...
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What's a shame is you haven't done your research

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=115488

And calling people stupid for purchasing any camera is a bit cavalier. The camera wars are over maniero. It's all coming down to talent and the end of the day when all things are equal.

Give Janusz an HV20 and you'll get a masterpiece.
 
maniero said:
...or an uprezzed 1080i as the HV20 produces it, is not worth upgrading to HD).
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You really need to do more research into how an HV20 works before spreading misinformation. The sensor of the HV20 is actually natively 1920 x 1080, and the footage is actually downrezz to 1440 x 1080 to match HDV standard.
 
I'm still shooting a lot of content on dv....using other people's DVX100s or my HVX200(on tape and on p2)...or dvcam with a 570. I would think that dv cameras (dv format) still have life left especially for direct to web content...and sd dvd is still prevalent for now.

In the end I just use what the client wants.
 
As Hudson said, it is all about the talent now. The DVX will never be obsolete as long as those with talent continue to pick it up.
 
I don't originate enough of my own material to warrant going out and spending nearly $10,000 for an HVX and accessories. My ol' DVX100a works just fine for me when I get the itch to create a short. It is a great camera, and allows for a lot of user customization. We also use them at the film school here in PDX, and as a teaching tool they are excellent. I think they have a few years in them yet. Look at the transition from VHS to Hi-8 to MiniDV. I know people who are STILL shooting on Hi-8 (I loan my Digital-8 camera to them for capturing their analog tapes into their computers). There isn't going to be a magical date where all SD cameras stop working.

I don't think the DVX is dying. The large user base it once had may be spreading out to the other 24p options (including HD), but many people will find it useful for a while to come, I believe.
 
Until a good, reliable way to distribute HD in its full resolution comes out or is available to everyone, then the DVX is still in the market. Besides, you can easily upconvert the DVX in software like InstantHD. It won't look like the Varicam, but it can come damn close if you know what your doing. In my opinion, the DVX will never die.
 
Why must the dvx100's life rely on the production of 4x3 tvs? As long as hi def or blu ray dvd players can play standard def, the dvx will be around a lot longer than you think. I have shot many films with the dvx100 in 4x3 mode and have played them back on 16x9 tvs by simply "zooming in" on the footage with the setting on the tv. The films look great. Friends of mine have shot on hi def and it doesnt look much better than my dvx100 film. Enjoy your dvx and dont worry about it. It will be around for a while yet.

Buy an HVX200 and two years from now they will be telling you "the obituary" is being written on it...its going to be "obsolete soon"...

when does it end? It wont. So just enjoy and make films and dont worry about what is supposedly being "phased out", or what other people are shooting with.
 
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