SD memory is cool but why not Compact Flash?

[soarprod]

It seems to me that compact flash would be a better option than SD memory - Prices alone. 2GB high speed compact flash ~$160, 2GB high speed SD memory ~ $399. RAID 4 Compact flash cards - have it stick out of the slot more or with a attached cable that goes to another device. You get all the benefits of P2 with lower cost and a slightly larger form factor. P2 = $400x4 + $250 controller = $1850. Compact flash = $160x4 + $250 controller = $890. The only thing I see is panasonic is pushing SD (their own format vs. compact flash). Even the 4GB high speed compact flash is only $300. Any thoughts? :thumbsup:

 

[NoahK]

Not gonna happen and still be called P2. Nothing stopping people from trying to find workarounds though if they wish.

 

[soarprod]

True - but it seems that maybe you could hack a 2GB P2 card and construct a 8 or 16gb one using the raid controller.

 

[NoahK]

Anything's possible. You gotta weigh in against losing a shot from excessively hacked gear too- worth it?

 

[soarprod]

Well, if you get it to work, it seems like the same reliability as P2 minus the 15G shock raiting. Also, you could check your shots right after or dump to usb 2 drive. I am not just suggesting that we make 'em - I have a friend who works for Kingston - maybe I can get him to help out us future hvx users.

 

[bilgami]

Hard Drive

Hard Drive

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[Pais]

Since the P2 cards are reportedly going to support up to 640 Mbps transfer rates, you're going to have to find a pretty fast disk -- or more likely, you're going to need a RAID of them (especially if they're small drives). Since the P2 cards are "standard" PCMCIA-ATA cards, I think, it won't be hard for third-party vendors to come up with solutions pretty quickly.

I don't expect it to be very easy to "roll your own", unless someone discovers that it's easy to swap out the four internal SD modules in a P2 card. Be patient, though, because memory prices are just going to keep falling through the floor for a while yet ...

 

[seantree]

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is this the one?
http://www.shining.com/products/totalsolution/citidisk_hdv/
looks interesting.

 

[Pais]

Interesting. I guess it's like a FireStore or the other one that was reviewed on this site a while back (forgot who made that), except it supports HDV as well.

The thing is, HDV's bitrate is similar to DV's -- on the order of 25 Mbps (that's megabits per second), whereas the HVX records in DVCPRO HD format at about 100 Mbps.

Maybe the manufacturer will slap four of these disks together when the HVX comes out.

 

[Pais]

... The only thing I see is panasonic is pushing SD (their own format vs. compact flash). Even the 4GB high speed compact flash is only $300. Any thoughts? :thumbsup:

Back to the original thread ... I think you hit the nail on the head right there. Even though Panasonic has been doing an incredible job raising the bar for video products, I guess they still have the Sony-esque agenda of pushing their own format.

 

[PKraft]

Simple reason: As long a new formats, codecs, form factors for cassettes etc are not "public domain" natively, these companys earn a lot of money as soon as they can go into mass production and/or some other company licenses the format, codec, form factor etc. They would be silly not to push their own format (don't have to pay license) and earn money as soon as it is licensed (without much further workload on their own part). Very Simple.