Running Windows on a Mac

Software integration is much different than hardware. No one forces you to buy software, and adobe is OS independent. But apple forces you to buy their hardware to use their software.

right on the money Isaac. If people could get Mac OS X on a PC that means they could build their own PCs for much cheaper than a Mac Pro and edit with Final Cut.
 
Isn't that every companies goal though?
I'm sure it is, but I don't know of any company (other than perhaps Sony) that pursues it with such an aggressive exclusionary attitude. Most companies seem to see nothing wrong with having their hardware work with whatever everyone else makes, or to have their software work with everyone else's. Apple seems to be trying to create a world where their customers won't even know that other manufacturers even exist.

Note: I'm not saying their products are bad, and I believe that a large portion of their success is obviously due to the fact that they do make great products. But I also don't care for that monopolistic attitude, it's a bit too much "company town" for my taste, that's all I'm saying.
 
In reality, I wouldn't mind really if they had OSX available for any hardware, I just would still use Apple Hardware. But if they have OSX for everyone, then it'll become a lot more popular and more viruses will be on the way.

I'm just a fan of Apple build quality, OS, software, ect.
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(not a fan of Apple TV though)
 
I'm sure it is, but I don't know of any company (other than perhaps Sony) that pursues it with such an aggressive exclusionary attitude. Most companies seem to see nothing wrong with having their hardware work with whatever everyone else makes, or to have their software work with everyone else's.
MS obviously has had problems playing well with others. Sony, as mentioned, who's just about the king of "proprietary standards" won't give editors access to the HDCAM codec unless they run a Sony Xpri. Avid's hardware only works w/Avid's software. Adobe's sweet integration in CS3 is obviously a big incentive to not use non-Adobe apps. Matrox makes some cool stuff but it's all PC only except for the MXO. I can't take the DVCPro HD tape I shot and play it back in anything other than a DVCPro HD deck (same for my Digi tape, or my JVC HDV 720p tape, etc.,).

Note: I'm not saying their products are bad, and I believe that a large portion of their success is obviously due to the fact that they do make great products. But I also don't care for that monopolistic attitude, it's a bit too much "company town" for my taste, that's all I'm saying.
I don't think Apple is any more or less company town than other guys. Apple is just doing a helluva lot better of selling their stuff and generating mind-share than the other guys right now. I'm sure every company would love to have the charisma of Jobs, the vision of Ive, and the fan base Apple has. Heck, look at the success Red has had going down a similar road. An out spoken, charismatic, self-made leader introducing sweet hardware w/ eye-catching industrial design at unheard of price points going head to head w/the giant corporations that have dominated the industry for so long.

Apple waving it's own flag incessantly doesn't really bother me 'cause that's what Apple (or any other company) is supposed to do. On the other hand, users that wave Apple's flag incessantly (especially those that have no or limited experience w/non-Apple products) do drive me up the wall.


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In reality, I wouldn't mind really if they had OSX available for any hardware, I just would still use Apple Hardware.

Apple doesn't make their own hardware. They don't design the cpu chips, they don't manufacture the harddrives or graphics cards. But they do work with other companies to make sure their software and OS run perfectly with the hardware they choose to use in their systems.

Have you opened up a mac lately? Where does it say made by apple on all the components?
 
Apple doesn't make their own hardware. They don't design the cpu chips, they don't manufacture the harddrives or graphics cards. But they do work with other companies to make sure their software and OS run perfectly with the hardware they choose to use in their systems.

Have you opened up a mac lately? Where does it say made by apple on all the components?

Yes I know all that, I mean more like the build, not the actual parts. I should've worded it better. I open my Mac every few months, clean it up from dust and such.
 
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You guys know how much i hate the MAC PC debate right... .... im like 10 seconds from closingthis thread..... I AM big brother....... ;) A computer is a computer.....
 
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You guys know how much i hate the MAC PC debate right... .... im like 10 seconds from closingthis thread..... I AM big brother....... ;) A computer is a computer.....

Yeah what a waste of thread space.
On to more important things- Which is better a dvx100b or a canon a1.......:Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)
 
I think one reason they don't unlock that ability for people with PC's (osx on a pc), is because of what barry said, stability. You loose that therefore you have more problems, thats more phone calls and tech support for more topics and information on 10x the amount of fixes...NIGHTMARE. lol.

Apple has one of the best support systems around by phone, adding 10 fold amount of problems right away just by allowing people to put the software on a system thats not guaranteed to run it...that would be nuts.
 
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